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#1 DangerClose

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:32 PM

GM selection, coaching staff/adjustments.

With the right people above:

1. Cap space problems are alleviated
2. Coaching issues (schemes, chemistry, etc) are resolved
3. Solid backups for depth are added during FA
4. Select good draft picks in April

I know a bunch you emotional types are crying that RR wasn't fired, but this is a smart business decision by JR. No need to wreck the team with a huge turn over by firing RR and his staff when the same intent can be achieved with a few smaller tweaks in other areas. The key here is finding the right GM.

With that said, let's get the discussion going on the four topics above.

1. Cap space means some vets need to go. DWill made himself marketable during the last game. It's worth a start to see what value he has.
2. New Oline, Special Teams, and strength and conditioning coaches
3. Safety is still an issue for us. Fix it.
4. I would address Oline or DT first in the draft, depending on what's available.

Thoughts? Questions? Comments? Concerns?

#2 carolina-chuck

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

Now I don't understand why Hurney got fired. Hurney isn't the one coaching the team or playing on the field.

#3 ElkinPanthersFan

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:38 PM

Is it going to be a smart business decision when Beane is the GM? Maybe in terms of what the GM makes, but not the repercussions on the outside.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:40 PM

I don't think posters mind Rivera staying. It's who decided that he was is, has, and will be the problem until JR is not meddling in team affairs

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:45 PM

My real focus now is finding another team that will be competitive and stop wasting my time trying to figure out why the Panthers organization is so unbelievably dicked up.

#6 SuperJTheGreat

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:47 PM

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:17 PM

Now I don't understand why Hurney got fired. Hurney isn't the one coaching the team or playing on the field.


accidental pie, meant to quote you

ANYWAY

Hurney is the one who gave deangelo willimas a retarded amount of money, a number he was not going to get anywhere else. Then he also botched julius peppers leaving, giving jake a huge contract, and tying up so much dead cap in the next few years it would be a miracle if we made it out the next two or three years with a .500 record.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:24 PM

accidental pie, meant to quote you

ANYWAY

Hurney is the one who gave deangelo willimas a retarded amount of money, a number he was not going to get anywhere else. Then he also botched julius peppers leaving, giving jake a huge contract, and tying up so much dead cap in the next few years it would be a miracle if we made it out the next two or three years with a .500 record.


Hurney isn't the one coaching the team who couldn't get the offense going. He's not the one not making defensive adjustments.

When you're a good HC in this league, you can play and win with what you have. You adjust to it and change your game plan if you have to like how a Shannahan did with Kirk Cousins.

Hurney's recent moves was made bc of the fans favorite. This forum would've went nuts if Hurney just let Dwill and Stewart walk. Hindsight 20/20 sure no one could've went wrong if we let one of them walk.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:27 PM

Smart business decision? That's all Jerry and his supporters seem to care about, smh. When are we gonna start caring about winning some damn games. Geez, it's this same talk year in and year out. "Give such and such another chance, he'll get it right next year." We hear this talk every year. 4 winning seasons out of 18 seasons. Jerry doesn't have a clue what he's doing, and it appears he's going in the same direction we've been since 95.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

My real focus now is finding another team that will be competitive and stop wasting my time trying to figure out why the Panthers organization is so unbelievably dicked up.


Bye.

#11 KillerKat

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:34 PM

As long as Chud is here, expect another mediocre season.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

I don't think posters mind Rivera staying. It's who decided that he was is, has, and will be the problem until JR is not meddling in team affairs

well, it's that and that i haven't heard if there were any ultimatums given. i don't know what the expectations are and what will happen if he doesn't reach those expectations.

i want to know just how committed this team is to winning...not just platitudes. i want to know that if rivera doesn't get this team in the playoffs that he's gone. i want to know that if he doesn't produce back to back winning seasons that he's gone. i want to know that if we are eliminated from the playoffs early that he's gone. anything like that.

it's not enough to say that they want to win. what are they doing other than backing their coach to ensure it?

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

My real focus now is finding another team that will be competitive and stop wasting my time trying to figure out why the Panthers organization is so unbelievably dicked up.

good luck selling those PSLs.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

Now I don't understand why Hurney got fired. Hurney isn't the one coaching the team or playing on the field.



Is it going to be a smart business decision when Beane is the GM? Maybe in terms of what the GM makes, but not the repercussions on the outside.



I don't think posters mind Rivera staying. It's who decided that he was is, has, and will be the problem until JR is not meddling in team affairs



My real focus now is finding another team that will be competitive and stop wasting my time trying to figure out why the Panthers organization is so unbelievably dicked up.


As long as Chud is here, expect another mediocre season.


Where's the faith? Where's the trust? Where's the confidence? Or the hope? Why is it so hard to believe that JR actually is trying to get this thing right? Or that our new GM may actually like Rivera? That our staff is actually improving is not that farfetched.

I just do not understand how some folks can live through the last 10 years and not see the improvement Rivera has brought. He started with a Fox and Hurney team. Some just feel he has improved enough to warrant another year to finish the rebuild. Which is what this was when we hired him. A rebuilding team.

Some, like me, are optimistic. Some aren't. I love this interwebz thingy.

#15 carolina-chuck

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

Where's the faith? Where's the trust? Where's the confidence? Or the hope? Why is it so hard to believe that JR actually is trying to get this thing right? Or that our new GM may actually like Rivera? That our staff is actually improving is not that farfetched.

I just do not understand how some folks can live through the last 10 years and not see the improvement Rivera has brought. He started with a Fox and Hurney team. Some just feel he has improved enough to warrant another year to finish the rebuild. Which is what this was when we hired him. A rebuilding team.

Some, like me, are optimistic. Some aren't. I love this interwebz thingy.


I'm just kidding. I love JR.
I hope he can go out and give us some help through FA.

"I'm very optimistic that JR will go bring AT LEAST some players like Pat Chung, McKelvin, and a RG or DT to help us out".


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