CRA 12,194 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Oh, doom and gloom....Rivera hasn't made us a Superbowl contender in 2 seasons so he is now poo. Lets look at what the few winners did as they started growing as HCs (record after their first 2 yrs as HC) A look at the last 15 rings handed out. In the last 15 years only 11 HCs can claim they are Superbowl winners. 2011 - Coughlin - 13-19 2010 - McCarthy - 21-11 (team was 12-20 the 2 years prior) 2009 - Payton - 17-15 (team was 11-21 the two years prior) 2008 - Tomlin- 22-10 Superbowl (team was 19-13 the 2 years prior) 2007 - Coughlin - 13-19 2006 - Dungy -16-16 2005 - Cowher - 18-12 (team was 16-16 2 years prior) 2004 - Belichick 13-19 2003 - Belichick - 13-19 2002 - Gruden- 16-16 2001 - Belichick - 13-19 2000- Billick - 20-12 - Superbowl (team was 12-19 two years prior) 1999- Vermiel - 9-19 1998 - Shannahan - 8-12 (fired) 1997 - Shanahan - 8-12 (fired) Out of the last 11 Superbowl winning HCs (last 15 seasons) only 5 won more games than they lost 2 years in to their head coaching careers during the regular season. Now Ron. 13-19 (team was 10-22 the two years prior). All I am saying is Rome wasn't built in a day. We don't fully know Ron's big picture potential. He deserves one more year to show his development. Sure, there are exceptions....sometimes a coach like Brian Billick will take over a team that was losing and wins Superbowl in two years. But Brian Billick isn't a reason to fire Rivera. Only other coach to win it in 2 years in recent history was a essentially a turn key operation in Mike Tomlin. Now, can someone please make a Ron Rivera I Got This gif? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carolina-chuck 2,761 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 All those coaches are no where as bad a decision maker and game adjustment as Chico 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ed bell 1,210 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 The 2-14 year he stepped in afterwards, the lock-out situation, and a rookie QB are huge factors, IMO....Not excuses, but impacting factors... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJTheGreat 1,667 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 We will not go to the SuperBowl with Rivera lmao. He could't even win it as a DC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sloth 924 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 CRA, what's the success/fail ratio for coaches who started off their careers with two losing season? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bj-Monster23 415 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Ok people get the picture. Can we stop with all these coaching threads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Keith Moons Liver 506 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 John Elway was a bad QB when he entered the league, just like Jimmy Clausen. Therefore, Jimmy Clausen is a future hall of famer. See, I can use logical fallacies too. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XClown1986 1,370 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 The 2-14 year he stepped in afterwards, the lock-out situation, and a rookie QB are huge factors, IMO....Not excuses, but impacting factors... Rivera came into a situation where he shouldn't have won more than 3 games, but since he won 6 people wanted 12 the next year. Give people an inch, they want a mile. Logic leaves the building too early for many people. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtnc 3,667 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 I believe Ron is a good coach who the players respect, however Chud is a dumbass who's playcalling is extremely unpredictable. I believe that a lot of our faults can be placed on him, look at the way he calls second half games. All those fuging three and outs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XClown1986 1,370 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 We will not go to the SuperBowl with Rivera lmao. He could't even win it as a DC. Once again, misinformed. Chicago got to the Superbowl because of their defense and special teams. Rex Grossman at QB is why they lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJTheGreat 1,667 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Once again, misinformed. Chicago got to the Superbowl because of their defense and special teams. Rex Grossman at QB is why they lost. Peyton Manning lit that D up and you know it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRA 12,194 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 All those coaches are no where as bad a decision maker and game adjustment as Chico You say that, but you are looking at many and comparing the decisions they made once they developed into HCs vs. a green Ron. You think Belichick, Shanahan, Vermiel, etc were viewed as great HCs 2 years in? or bumbling fools that wouldn't pan out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRA 12,194 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 CRA, what's the success/fail ratio for coaches who started off their careers with two losing season? Well, you would have to give me a time period and a more specific group of HCs....but I don't need to look up the stats to tell you most regardless of what criteria looked at don't win rings. Too many teams and only 1 prize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Panther 3,966 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Rivera came into a situation where he shouldn't have won more than 3 games, but since he won 6 people wanted 12 the next year. Give people an inch, they want a mile. Logic leaves the building too early for many people. That's because this team is a 12 win team today. We left 5 games on the table this year. And Rivera made obvious coaching blunders. I've been hoping he gets one more year just because I think he has great potential but I hope he is on the shortest leash in 2013. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XClown1986 1,370 Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Peyton Manning lit that D up and you know it. Peyton Manning had 247 yards 1 TD and 1 Int. Hardly lighting it up at all. The Chicago Bears turned the ball over 5 times in the game. One of which was a pick 6 by Grossman in the 4th quarter when the Bears had a chance to take the lead. You have no idea what you are talking about. This much is clear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
