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Dispelling some half-truths about Shula's time in Tampa


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#51 SZ James (banned)

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:01 PM

Confirmation bias: the official thread

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:21 PM

Panther fans have a right to be mad. Don't try to tell us this is chicken salad. We know it's chicken poo. The most concerning part is if it doesn't work out then we are hiring a new coach and giving him a year to figure things out...we could go 6-7 years(since 2008) without playoffs before the staff is built into a competitive nucleus. I'm fugging tired of waiting. I have an unhealthy lifestyle, If I'm lucky the good lord will grant me 15-20 years. I want to die happy dammit. I need to see my Panthers win a Super Bowl.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:23 PM

Lol I like it when people who know the least shout the most

welcome to the huddle

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:26 PM

You guys are trying to pull out numbers and excuses from the internet but people that lived it, people that watched the train of thought. They all agree he was terrible.

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:29 PM

^^lol I think that's the first time anyone's addressed Zod with "welcome to the huddle"

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:40 PM

http://www.charlotte...-promotion.html

Cam seems to agree with the shula hire

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:48 PM

^^lol I think that's the first time anyone's addressed Zod with "welcome to the huddle"

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Posted 19 January 2013 - 11:59 PM

You guys are trying to pull out numbers and excuses from the internet but people that lived it, people that watched the train of thought. They all agree he was terrible.


90% of the football watching world thinks their team's OC is terrible and their backup QB is awesome.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:05 AM

Perhaps not you specifically, but many are saying in essence, "well Shula will be better than Chud for reason x, y, and z". Or that he's better than Shurmur.

Please remember we had the whole universe of coaches to choose from, both NFL and NCAA (at least those that were open to a new job). It is going to be tough to convince me that anything in Shula's history indicated that he was our best selection.

So others say to just be patient and let things play out. The only problem is we are potentially wasting a critical year of having a really special QB. We need to stop settling for someone that might be okay, and build an organization top to bottom that gives us the best chance for success.


Let's take the most optimistic viewpoint for a second, because we all know the pessimistic version in great, worrisome detail. But let's try the optimistic view:

If Shula was hired for continuity, and the coaching staff isn't utterly retarded, then Shula will be implementing Chudzinski's playbook with his own touches, and will not change it wholesale. Rivera has always been adamant that he inherited his offensive philosophy from Norv Turner, so the vertical passing game will not being going away, and in order for Shula to have convinced that he deserved the job he had to have convinced them that he would use a similar philosophy, otherwise there is no continuity. If this is the system and philosophy Shula will work to continue, than I'm a lot less concerned about his past, because his past isn't relevant to this offense. If anything, he may be far more amenable to allowing Cam to make his own calls than Chudzinski was, and since the development of Cam is priority #1 for this franchise that can be a major benefit to this change.

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Posted 20 January 2013 - 12:13 AM

90% of the football watching world thinks their team's OC is terrible and their backup QB is awesome.

true, this is why i thought all those that wanted Chud gone where freaking idiots, name another Panthers OC that put together back to back top 10 offenses(I know the panthers finished 12th on the season but they were 60 total yards away from 7th in total offense for the season)


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