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Colin Kaepernick Didn't Think He'd Beat Newton To Super Bowl, He Says At Media Day (USA Today)

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#31 FootballMaestro

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:27 AM

Wait.... What Kaep. is black? The last time I looked. He look like he has some Indian in him or part mexican. But black he is not. He has a tan look to his skin. That is it.


Just so you know, Mexican is not a race. It's a country. Lol.

Black people encompass the whole range of colors and facial features. They're black people in Africa, who have never seen a white person in their life (except Anthropologist, Geneticist and other scientist), who are light/of light complexion, with Chinese eyes and straight noses, who scientist say are the oldest living people on earth (such as in Southern and Central, East Africa). So what you're saying doesn't mean much.

Saying all that: Kaepernick has a black and a white parent. And this is the reason why he was called black by some huddler's. I would call him mixed or a mulatto type myself (unless he has wooly hair, which is hard to tell, cause he keeps it cut so low). But then again, anthropologist would say he has a tropical limb build/skeleton and classify his as black. Nonetheless, there are black people with two black parents that can be of lighter complexion. Just as a black parent and a white parent can still produce a black child (phenotypically), even if their genotype is mixed.

It's not always as simple as you make it. And for the record, Native Americans (I think you called them Indians), can range in complexion as well. However, the one's from Mexico are usually much darker (and shorter for that matter). Lol

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:33 AM

Where is Kase Klosed? Kaepernick pledged Kappa Psi fraternity in college. That tells me all I need to know of what he sees himself as.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:02 AM

Cam will still get his Super Bowl ring before Kaepernick.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:20 AM

Cam will still get his Super Bowl ring before Kaepernick.


I think you may be right sir.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:29 AM

Just so you know, Mexican is not a race. It's a country. Lol.

Black people encompass the whole range of colors and facial features. They're black people in Africa, who have never seen a white person in their life (except Anthropologist, Geneticist and other scientist), who are light/of light complexion, with Chinese eyes and straight noses, who scientist say are the oldest living people on earth (such as in Southern and Central, East Africa). So what you're saying doesn't mean much.

Saying all that: Kaepernick has a black and a white parent. And this is the reason why he was called black by some huddler's. I would call him mixed or a mulatto type myself (unless he has wooly hair, which is hard to tell, cause he keeps it cut so low). But then again, anthropologist would say he has a tropical limb build/skeleton and classify his as black. Nonetheless, there are black people with two black parents that can be of lighter complexion. Just as a black parent and a white parent can still produce a black child (phenotypically), even if their genotype is mixed.

It's not always as simple as you make it. And for the record, Native Americans (I think you called them Indians), can range in complexion as well. However, the one's from Mexico are usually much darker (and shorter for that matter). Lol


Remember Tiger Woods saying on Oprah that he didn not want to just identify himself as just simply black because he saw it as disrespecting his mother's culture, is what got him in trouble with the black race and used against him by the white race when they were ready to tear him down.

Being Bi-racial in this country is just as complicated as being any other race outside of white...just saying.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:38 AM

Cam will still get his Super Bowl ring before Kaepernick.


Not if this team don't change their overall attitude. No matter what some of the Panthers fans want to believe.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:44 AM

naw he mixed with black man..lol his dad is black...say they came wisconsin..

lot of stories going around on his childhood...

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:51 AM

Remember Tiger Woods saying on Oprah that he didn not want to just identify himself as just simply black because he saw it as disrespecting his mother's culture, is what got him in trouble with the black race and used against him by the white race when they were ready to tear him down.

Being Bi-racial in this country is just as complicated as being any other race outside of white...just saying.



thats why its some questions you dont anwser lol

but yeah i agree with you man. but i would say being mixed will get you accepted by whites a lil better.

like i dont think obama would have won if he was a darker(higher percentage) black guy like stewart or beason...you know.....

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:09 AM

thats why its some questions you dont anwser lol

but yeah i agree with you man. but i would say being mixed will get you accepted by whites a lil better.

like i dont think obama would have won if he was a darker(higher percentage) black guy like stewart or beason...you know.....


I don't agree about the Obama part of your post. That is a totally different dynamic. Remember the only segment of this country that didn't vote for Obama this time around in larger numbers, like they did the last tme, were the blue-collar white males.Everything else pretty much either grew or stayed the same.

Remember, it wasn't the blacks who created the one drop of black blood makes you automatically black thinking. So, I don't know about the whites accepting multi-ethic folks a lil better.

Anyway, I just believe it's still a matter of how you're seen. I'm sure if Colin was still sitting on a bench, he wouldn't be so accepted by anyone.

Plus, Russel Wilson is multi-ethic and even he had to listen to the whole, "you're too short and should be stuff." How much taller is Drew Brees than Russel?

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:28 AM

I don't agree about the Obama part of your post. That is a totally different dynamic. Remember the only segment of this country that didn't vote for Obama this time around in larger numbers, like they did the last tme, were the blue-collar white males.Everything else pretty much either grew or stayed the same.

Remember, it wasn't the blacks who created the one drop of black blood makes you automatically black thinking. So, I don't know about the whites accepting multi-ethic folks a lil better.

Anyway, I just believe it's still a matter of how you're seen. I'm sure if Colin was still sitting on a bench, he wouldn't be so accepted by anyone.

Plus, Russel Wilson is multi-ethic and even he had to listen to the whole, "you're too short and should be stuff." How much taller is Drew Brees than Russel?



well lighter skinned blacks tend to be more famous to me??? especially on the woman side.... like most of the lighter blacks was house servants and slave owners wouldnt go as far(hurting) with them compared to a darker slave because alot of times they were kin to them.

remember now that racism became a little of a no no in america...so i guess alot of racist switched from hes a "oh no hes mixed with black" to "well at least he has some white in him.....so maybe hes better than the pure black guy..."

just like i was on a forum one day and a racist guy claimed that all the black scientist who had made great contributions to america were mixed with white or of lighter skinned...meaning they smarter than pure africans....

idk maybe im wrong but it seems like that to me sometimes.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

well lighter skinned blacks tend to be more famous to me??? especially on the woman side.... like most of the lighter blacks was house servants and slave owners wouldnt go as far(hurting) with them compared to a darker slave because alot of times they were kin to them.

remember now that racism became a little of a no no in america...so i guess alot of racist switched from hes a "oh no hes mixed with black" to "well at least he has some white in him.....so maybe hes better than the pure black guy..."

just like i was on a forum one day and a racist guy claimed that all the black scientist who had made great contributions to america were mixed with white or of lighter skinned...meaning they smarter than pure africans....

idk maybe im wrong but it seems like that to me sometimes.


You're all over the place now.

Many of the biggest black stars (especially male) are/were dark skin (Denzel Washington, Oprah, Wesley Snipes, Will-Iam, Jay Z, Bill Cosby, Sidney Potier), as they could have been lighter skin stars. Like anything else, there's a diversity.

As far as the inventor thing, that's equally as wrong. People like George Washington Carver, Benjamin Banneker, Ben Carson and a myriad of others weren't light. Trust me. The difference is, the media only likes to pay attention to the light ones. Lol.

It's like Cuba and Brazil. They only show you the white or light skin people on TV (or the ones that live in Florida, with the Cuban's), while the majority of those countries, and many other similar ones are predominantly black.

I also have a problem with highlighting which blacks are light, or have less African/black in them for several reasons:

1) We don't do this with whites, despite the fact that we know many darker Portuguese, Spanish (Spain), Greeks, Italians and even Russians, have black blood due to black occupation during the middle ages, and even before for the Russians. We don't call them, "part white", do we?

2) Very few blacks in America, have zero white blood in their back ground (and vice versa many times as well). Nonetheless, a black and a white parent can still produce a distinctly black child. That's the difference between Phenotype (the physical), and Genotype, dealing with the bloodline. So the Obama example is not a good one, cause many dual black parents can produce a child that looks exactly like Obama, even if they're both darker.

Lastly, as I said earlier; they're blacks in Africa, that encompass a wide range of facial features and skin tones that have never seen a white person in the life, except maybe anthropologist, geneticist and reporters there to meet them. Many of these people are regarded as the oldest living humans, as geneticist can trace all of our lineages back to them, 60-200,000 years ago (modern Humans as Homo Sapien Sapien). And because of this, many prominent scientist today believe that skin variation and facial feature diversity (besides climate and environment), came out of Africa and is not due to racial mixing. In other words, you have people in Africa that look like Obama and lighter, who never seen a white person in their life. National Geographic and many other mainstream and scientific publications, via DNA, Paleontology, Linguistics, orthodontics and archaeologically have already confirmed this.

Sorry for the treatise. But I hope that helped? Lol

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:03 PM

yeah i know but i still think RACIST have that mind set.....you have said nothing wrong.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:21 PM

Hesitate to even get into this conversation, but I know a number of dark-skinned Americans with light skinned siblings - and yes they have the same parents.

Complexion has little to do with the percentage of white or black some one is.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 12:30 PM

^^ well true but if you go down the line that family has white in them......genes can skip like that. kids dont always inherit the same disease their parents have and then sometimes they do.

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Posted 03 February 2013 - 01:36 PM

well lighter skinned blacks tend to be more famous to me??? especially on the woman side.... like most of the lighter blacks was house servants and slave owners wouldnt go as far(hurting) with them compared to a darker slave because alot of times they were kin to them.

remember now that racism became a little of a no no in america...so i guess alot of racist switched from hes a "oh no hes mixed with black" to "well at least he has some white in him.....so maybe hes better than the pure black guy..."

just like i was on a forum one day and a racist guy claimed that all the black scientist who had made great contributions to america were mixed with white or of lighter skinned...meaning they smarter than pure africans....

idk maybe im wrong but it seems like that to me sometimes.


Education goes a long way to stump out ignorance, in my opinion.

Anyway, the media is already deminishing Colin's success by stating that he didn't start the season as a QB. They are, in a sense, still making the subtle argument that a black QB cannot win an SB as a starting QB, just incase he does win. And if he doesn't complete the task by winning tonight, the push for Alex to get back his starting job back next season will begin. Funny thing, how much hype did the meda make over The Golden Calf of Bristol with the Broncos despite coming off the bench and only winning 4 games during the season? Can you imagine if The Golden Calf of Bristol had taken the Broncos to the SB like Collin did with the 489ers. He might be on Mount Rushmore by now.

The reality vs. fantasy of the race component in this country.



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