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[NanuqoftheNorth]

How is it that the very same people that said we had to cut back on federal aid for union teachers and cops last year, are now in favor of increasing funding for union cops and presumably training and arming union teacher's too? How is that possible? Do my ears deceive me, big government has the answer? Is the GOP now saying federal spending creates jobs? Careful GOP, you might stimulate the economy too much with all this Keynesian spending and make President Obama even more popular than he already is. Hope this sudden 180 degree change in thinking isn't just the result of the GOP's slavish tendency to follow any and all directives of the NRA and their corporate overlords. Nah, that can't be it.

[Anybodyhome]

Don't forget the same political party that took ObamaCare to the Supreme Court and the IRA are now both squarely in favor of increased mental health care spending. How hypocritical does that make the Republicans look about now? But, in true right-wing fashion, they'll bitch about every suggestion put on the table while coming up with nothing of their own.

[pstall]

Some of you guys are a bit dim. The NRA brought up the idea of armed guards.
The right wanted to do voter id in some states and drug testing for welfare in others. That would have some increase.

But since armed guards is a bad idea we can shut down secret service right? Why even pay cops?

if money for a smart feasible solution is needed it will cost money. This whiny oh now you guys want big govt is petty and dumb and shows why nothing gets done.
Let's make it a right vs left instead of a practical vs expensive deal.

[thefuzz]

Why would the federal government be put on the hook for the cost?

Most of us bitch about federal government spending, not state and local as much. This should be a local, possibly a state deal, but local would be smarter.

Let the counties worry about this one, and keep the federal governments paws off just a sliver of the school system.

Sometimes I wonder if you "well he did this" addicts can think clearly any more.

[Delhommey]

No one is arguing against it. We're just pointing out the screaming hypocrisy that shows what many of have been saying for years: conservatives don't hate government spending- they hate government spending on things they don't like.

[cookinwithgas]

It seems like just last year when all my gun nut friends were cheering on the idea of the Federal government telling local authorities that they should not be able to restrict concealed carry laws in their own jurisdictions

Oh wait it was just last year

[pstall]

Dems don't like spending when it doesn't benefit them either. Goes both ways.

[Zod]

So wait, a handgun stopped the shooter?

He didnt need a 40 round magazine assault rifle?


Weird.

[Zod]

PS, I am all for a trained armed guard or police officer assigned to every public school

[thefuzz]

No one is arguing against it. We're just pointing out the screaming hypocrisy that shows what many of have been saying for years: conservatives don't hate government spending- they hate government spending on things they don't like.

Local vs. Federal

And personally I don't really like the idea, but it's much smarter to do this than to ban AR 15's.

Wonder if there will be less fights in the halls with an officer in there, less drugs, less gang related instances, less student on teacher violence?

Again, I don't love the idea, and I certainly hate the idea if it comes from the federal level. This should be handled by each state or county.

[thefuzz]

So wait, a handgun stopped the shooter?

He didnt need a 40 round magazine assault rifle?


Weird.

Are police going to turn their rifles in?

[Zod]

Why would they do that?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

President Obama: We need more police in schools to protect our children. Obama Haters: KING OBAMA, SOCIALISM, DICTATORSHIP, BIG GOVERNMENT! NRA: We need more police in schools to protect our children. Obama Haters: INSPIRED, BRILLIANT, MORE GUNNZZZZ, FREEDOMZZZZ!

[cookinwithgas]

Is it true that Wayne LaPierre was not drafted into the Vietnam War because he had mental issues?

[thefuzz]

Why would they do that?

Are you telling me that they have a need for them?