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[panther4life]

I referenced the trade value chart found here http://www.draftcoun...Value-Chart.php and put the points the picks are valued at in parentheses right next to each pick mentioned.


I found the draft order for every round here.http://walterfootbal...ftorder2013.php
**This order will change slightly once comp picks are awarded.

The following scnearios do not include trading any players, just draft picks. I am not promoting any of these, just providing the info for something to discuss/ponder as we await for the draft.


Trade up scenario

Trade with Browns where we aqcuire the 6th pick:
6th(1600)
The Browns would receive our 14th and 45th pick (our 1st and 2nd)
14th(1100) and 45th(450)= + 50 points for us but same exact trade occured last year between Dallas and St. Louis

Quick take:A trade like this could possibly land us Star Lotulelei but with the number of holes we have we may miss that 2nd round pick in spite of landing a top tier talent like Star.

Trade down scenarios

Trade with Bengals where we acquire the following picks:
21st(800)37th(530)and 57th(330) total value =1660
The Bengals would recieve the following picks from us:
14th(1100),45th(450), 107th(80) and 143(34.5) = 1664.5
+ 4.5 points for bengals

Quick take:
Thats a lot of picks changing hands(7 total), making it seem unlikely to happen but you never know. Not sure I how I feel about this one yet as I have no idea what kind of drop of their will be between pick 14 and 21.


Trade with Rams where we acquire the following picks:
22nd(780) and 48th(420) total value = 1200
The Rams would get these picks from us:
14th(1100) 107(80) and 174(21.8) = 1201
+ 1.8 point for Rams

Quick take: Again not sure how I feel about trading back that far in this first. I love the idea of acquiring another 2nd to replace our missing third but maybe 2nd round picks mentally have a diminsihed value in my head because of Hurneys 2nd round history.


Trade with Vikings where we aqcuire the following picks:
23rd(760) and 54th (360) total value = 1120
The Vikings would get the following from us:
14th(1100) and 174th(21.8) total value =1121.8
+ 1.8 for Vikings

Quick take: Very similar to the one listed above except in this scenario we get to keep our 4th and only have to sacrifice a 6th instead, granted we fall 1 pick further in the first and 6 further in the 2nd.

Theres several other scenarios but I only put up ones where we can gain extra picks inside the first 2 rounds.

[Happy Panther]

I like that Browns trade up scenario if Star were available after the 5th pick

[panther4life]

I like that Browns trade up scenario if Star were available after the 5th pick

He's the only player I'd consider doing that trade for and even then I'm still very hesitant on doing so because of all the holes we need to fill. If Gettleman works some cap magic and finds us a couple vet upgrades in F.A. then I would become more open to the idea but at this point I am liking the idea of trading back and picking up extra picks better.

[Peppers90 NC]

too many holes to trade up unless it's somehow a player we can afford to lose

[Ruff]

I like that Browns trade up scenario if Star were available after the 5th pick

You would trade up to get Star? When we pick, there's going to be guys like Floyd, Richardson, Hankins, Williams, etc. And you would trade up?

[KissMyConverse]

You would trade up to get Star? When we pick, there's going to be guys like Floyd, Richardson, Hankins, Williams, etc. And you would trade up?

Took the words right out of my mouth. This is a VERY DEEP DT class....
I wouldn't want to trade up but the only position worth doing it for is LT.

[Ruff]

Took the words right out of my mouth. This is a VERY DEEP DT class....
I wouldn't want to trade up but the only position worth doing it for is LT.

Agreed 100%.

There is only two players I would dream of trading up for in this draft. 1, Joeckel 2, Fisher. that's it.

[JawnyBlaze]

This is indeed a deep draft at DT, and I would be plenty fine with Hankins at #14 and I also wouldn't mind Richardson or maybe J. Williams there (wouldn't touch Floyd in the 1st at all, even after a trade down). But in my opinion, Star is an elite prospect. I probably would be willing to give up our #2 to move up to get him. I wouldn't for Fisher. Star is the guy I want most in this draft, and it isn't even close to the second guy.

A trade I'd rather see is maybe our 1st, 4th and next year's 2nd for the Browns' 1st (or some other team in that vicinity) if we can get Star. I think that'd work out to roughly equivalent value.

[Happy Panther]

You would trade up to get Star? When we pick, there's going to be guys like Floyd, Richardson, Hankins, Williams, etc. And you would trade up?

Yep.

Star is legit. Possible #1 and future NFL superstar.

Would also trade down if but I don't see the talent at #14 that people will be coveting.

[CRA]

too many holes to trade up unless it's somehow a player we can afford to lose

Yep. With little FA room we need draft picks....I see us trying to acquire some....not deal some to move up

[Delhommey]

That draft chart's about as useful as a 1960's roadmap of Charlotte.

[stirs]

Why not 18 trade down scenarios?

[carolina-chuck]

I'll do the Browns trade for Star. He's too damn good

[Ivan The Awesome]

Trade down. Not up. This team has too many hole.

[KissMyConverse]

See that's where we differ at 14 (assuming we can't trade down and Star is off the board) I think Floyd is the DT we should go. The way I see it if we don't trade out of the pick its going to be Chance Warmack, or whichever WR they like/ DT they like, and I'd go Floyd long before the rest.