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Everybody else getting cut from their teams, lets join the party

Cut Beast, Gross, D.WIll, Gamble, Armanti, Nakamura, Anderson, let Dwan and Captain go, Fua, Murphy

I mean, why not?

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i wish people would stop saying cut Gross. its simple ridiculous. the oline is already bad and you want to cut the best player on it? get real. you must want Cam going through rehab next offseason like rg3 instead of improving his game
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we need pretty immediate upgrades at RT and RG along with a pretty sizeable list of other positions. if we release gross that only adds to the list. we can't afford to do that. not if we have any hopes of winning and keeping cam safe.

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[quote name='beastson' timestamp='1360617008' post='2132255']
Everybody else getting cut from their teams, lets join the party

Cut Beast, Gross, D.WIll, Gamble, Armanti, Nakamura, Anderson, let Dwan and Captain go, Fua, Murphy

I mean, why not?
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you should be used to the process by now..

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Im not ready to go that far, but I am sick of waiting for news..com on already..

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[quote name='beastson' timestamp='1360617008' post='2132255']
Everybody else getting cut from their teams, lets join the party

Cut Beast, Gross, D.WIll, Gamble, [u][b]Armanti,[/b][/u] Nakamura, Anderson, let Dwan and Captain go, Fua, Murphy

I mean, why not?
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R U INSANE !?!?!?!?!?!?!

Did you see tht punt return this year?!?!?!?!?!

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1360617424' post='2132261']
we need pretty immediate upgrades at RT and RG along with a pretty sizeable list of other positions. if we release gross that only adds to the list. we can't afford to do that. not if we have any hopes of winning and keeping cam safe.
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my point exactly. gross is going to restructure and so is beason

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we've already started the "create bad unfunny sarcastic threads party"

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[quote name='rayzor' timestamp='1360617424' post='2132261']
we need pretty immediate upgrades at[i][b] [/b][/i][u][b]RT[/b][/u] and RG along with a pretty sizeable list of other positions. if we release gross that only adds to the list. we can't afford to do that. not if we have any hopes of winning and keeping cam safe.
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Really?

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really.

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doing things on time is so mainstream

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[quote name='IamSoClutch' timestamp='1360618096' post='2132277']


my point exactly. gross is going to restructure and so is beason
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A Beason restructure is very risky....for Carolina. Cutting him looks to be the safer move.

Gross is about the only restructure out of the big names talked about that makes sense

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[quote name='Gallagher' timestamp='1360619366' post='2132294']


Really?
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Bell isn't good. He improved.

Gross and Kalil are the only ones proven that can play at a starting caliber.

That is risky business with a franchise QB
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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1360623929' post='2132370']


A Beason restructure is very risky....for Carolina. Cutting him looks to be the safer move.

Gross is about the only restructure out of the big names talked about that makes sense
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Why would a beason restructure be risky. We wont save much by just cutting. Restructuring him to an incentive deal this season and cut/trade him next year is better

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[quote name='CRA' timestamp='1360623965' post='2132371']
Bell isn't good. He improved.

Gross and Kalil are the only ones proven that can play at a starting caliber.

That is risky business with a franchise QB
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The only reason people assume Bell is safe is because Rivera seems to have a renob for the guy

RT, LG, & RG all could use upgrades. I know Silatulu is young and can still be really good but just I think we can still find better (maybe even in the draft)

Gross-?-Kalil-?-?

Personally, I'd like us to take a look at Kevin Boothe and go after a OT in the draft. If Bell or Silatulu remain starters and we don't get an upgrade, so be it, but if one is available we should go for it.

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I remember cutting Chris Harris, Lewis, and Kemo. It was super easy to replace those scrubs......

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[quote name='IamSoClutch' timestamp='1360630617' post='2132466']


Why would a beason restructure be risky. We wont save much by just cutting. Restructuring him to an incentive deal this season and cut/trade him next year is better
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Bc if you had to turn around and cut him....he has even more bonus money (guaranteed) that would impact the cap.

Restructuring usually means reducing salary and throwing cash at a player.

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[quote name='IamSoClutch' timestamp='1360630617' post='2132466']
Why would a beason restructure be risky. We wont save much by just cutting. Restructuring him to an incentive deal this season and cut/trade him next year is better
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Often when people say "restructure" they mean "renegotiate". Restructuring doesn't usually free up any total money from the entire contract. It just pushes it into the future, often with a little MORE money (in the future) for the trouble of restructuring to help the team now.

Renegotiating is when a team and player both know he won't get as much money from another team so the team threatens for either the player to take a paycut or get cut. Often this leads to a player getting cut, they test the waters in FA, then re-signs with the team at a reduced rate.

Beason has made it sound like he's not open to renegotiating to give money back. So a restructure sounds like the only option to straight cutting him, and in all likelihood a restructure would hamstring us even worse in the future. I love the guy, he's my favorite defensive Panther of all time, but I honestly think he'll be cut or traded because that's what makes the most sense. Traded so we can get some sort of compensation (even though the salary cap implications will be the same as it will be if we cut him), but if we can't trade him then cutting him is one of the ways to help our cap in the long run.
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Well probably be cutting loose some veterans this offseason, gotta trim the fat

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[quote name='Swaggasaurus' timestamp='1360640045' post='2132662']
I remember cutting Chris Harris, Lewis, and Kemo. It was super easy to replace those scrubs......
[/quote]but have we really replaced them? I think our run defense still sucks and the safety spot is questionable.

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[quote name='ThunderKatt' timestamp='1360664694' post='2132790']
but have we really replaced them? I think our run defense still sucks and the safety spot is questionable.
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I'm not certain he wasn't being facetious. It's been years and we still haven't replaced any of those 3 guys. Maybe D. Edwards could be considered as Lewis' replacement, but not long term which is what I'm thinking of when talking about replacements.

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[quote name='ThunderKatt' timestamp='1360664694' post='2132790']
but have we really replaced them? I think our run defense still sucks and the safety spot is questionable.
[/quote]Hell no we haven't, that was my point. Those cuts hurt us.

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[quote name='kahakai' timestamp='1360634291' post='2132528']


The only reason people assume Bell is safe is because Rivera seems to have a renob for the guy

RT, LG, & RG all could use upgrades. I know Silatulu is young and can still be really good but just I think we can still find better (maybe even in the draft)

Gross-?-Kalil-?-?

Personally, I'd like us to take a look at Kevin Boothe and go after a OT in the draft. If Bell or Silatulu remain starters and we don't get an upgrade, so be it, but if one is available we should go for it.
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LG will not be looked at to upgrade. We drafted the starter there last year in Silatolu.

He was a little raw when we drafted him, but hit better as the season wire on. Expect to see him on the OL for years to come.

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:thumbsu: :thumbsu: [quote name='Swaggasaurus' timestamp='1360685262' post='2132950']
Hell no we haven't, that was my point. Those cuts hurt us.
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:thumbsu: :thumbsu:

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