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One last argument for keeping D-will one more year.


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Posted 16 February 2013 - 12:49 AM

Both healthy, Williams is better than Stewart.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 12:58 AM

You can prove that Dwill is the way to go by posting all the useful stat comparison's and logic you want. Nobody wants to hear that Stewart is injury prone and that Dwill is better even though it is the truth. Our offense looked pretty good after Stewart was done. Lets keep it that way. Thank you for posting these FACTS.


Our offense looked better when Stew was healthy in 2011 getting a larger percentage of reps than any RB in the division.....

But lets not talk about that....

Didn't people claim that was arguably one of the top 3 rush attacks in history and the best overall in Panther history?

In 2013, a healthy Stewart > Williams in a Cam offense. Talking about 2008 doesn't mean anything going forward

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:01 AM

This thread is going to end up being like 12 pages long, but I hope you guys realize eventually that talent at the RB position is nowhere near as important today as it used to be.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:01 AM

Both healthy, Williams is better than Stewart.


Depends on the offense and talent around them who is better. They where both healthy in 2011...Stewart saw the field more for a reason and the production of the offense was off the charts

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

KEEP HIM

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:54 PM

the cap consequences for cutting him both this year and next don't outweigh the production we might lose at the position (in spite of the lessening of importance of elite individual talent at the position.)

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:16 PM

Depends on the offense and talent around them who is better. They where both healthy in 2011...Stewart saw the field more for a reason and the production of the offense was off the charts


Williams had more yards and 3 more TD's 2011 in spite of playing less snaps. That really is not the point here. The point is we can't save enough money to justify the 2 year cap hit of cutting him to replace him with anyone who would help the team more than he does even if he only gets 33% of the carries.

As I said in the OP and PhillyB mentioned theres not much benefit in cutting him this year. We can't afford the cap hit unless its done as a June 1st cut and we need to stop the trend of carrying over dead money now. Next year cutting him can be done without designating it as a June 1st cut and still save money instantly.

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Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:21 PM

For the people that argue that RBs aren't nearly as important as they used to be, and considering the recent influx of the read option:

After seeing RG3 and Morris tear it up this season... which piece do you guys think is the more vital cog in the read option? The QB or the RB? Russell Wilson also has Marshawn "Beast Mode" Lynch.

I think the value of good RBs are going to go up significantly if the NFL does evolve into a dual-threat QB league.

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Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:43 AM

Williams had more yards and 3 more TD's 2011 in spite of playing less snaps. That really is not the point here. The point is we can't save enough money to justify the 2 year cap hit of cutting him to replace him with anyone who would help the team more than he does even if he only gets 33% of the carries.

As I said in the OP and PhillyB mentioned theres not much benefit in cutting him this year. We can't afford the cap hit unless its done as a June 1st cut and we need to stop the trend of carrying over dead money now. Next year cutting him can be done without designating it as a June 1st cut and still save money instantly.


Stewart played more snaps in 2011 bc he aided the offense better. He didn't have the big runs....he had the consistent ones. He opened up things for the rest of the offense in a manner Williams didn't.....and it is why he is Rivera's choice the last two years.

If he is a June 1 cut....we create cap room in 2013 and 2014. We need it both years. Williams isn't getting better. Which means the frustration fans had with him last year before forgetting it bc of the 16th game of the year....will grow.