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If Vance McDonald is somehow there in the 4th and we didn't grab a WR early, I'd be all over that.

Don't know about going for one with our first 2 picks unless we are for sure gonna utilize a guy like we did with Shockey.

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[quote name='carolina-chuck' timestamp='1361724497' post='2143044']
Lol face the fact that there ain't no 1000yds+ 17tds Randy Moss in this Draft.

If youre looking for a ROY player for us, you'd better be looking at a defensive player. Bc an OT is going to win OROY (Joeckel, Fisher, Johnson)
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same thing they said about cruz.....lol

their is always a wr in the draft ready to make a huge impact....but that depends on if this guy knows how to draft talent......


ot is going to win rookie of the year.........LOL


stop while your not that far behind chuck........just stop it.

face the fact that WAY more wr have been huge impact their first years then tightends......



hmmmmm lets see who had a bigger impact with andrew luck......dwayne allen or coby fleener or that 3rd round guy ty hilton??????


idk know man looks real close.....................................................chuck just stop it....i plead you. lol

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[quote name='BigSyke' timestamp='1361735640' post='2143284']



same thing they said about cruz.....lol

their is always a wr in the draft ready to make a huge impact....but that depends on if this guy knows how to draft talent......


ot is going to win rookie of the year.........LOL


stop while your not that far behind chuck........just stop it.

face the fact that WAY more wr have been huge impact their first years then tightends......



hmmmmm lets see who had a bigger impact with andrew luck......dwayne allen or coby fleener or that 3rd round guy ty hilton??????


idk know man looks real close.....................................................chuck just stop it....i plead you. lol
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Lol you're messed up in the head if you think Eifert or Ertz can't have a good rookie season and there's a Randy Moss in this draft.

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[quote name='carolina-chuck' timestamp='1361740087' post='2143364']
Lol you're messed up in the head if you think Eifert or Ertz can't have a good rookie season and there's a Randy Moss in this draft.
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stop it chuck.


ty hilton had 7 tds with over 800 yards with an amazing 17,2 avg....umm thats a deep threat.....and hes not even close to randy moss...lol

plus he did it with a rookie qb while gronk and jimmy had elite qbs....YOU tell me who had the bigger IMPACT??

of course you wont because you dont want to admit that i been won the argument. lol

it does not have to be a moss for a wr to come in and have huge impact.....and i NEVER said there was a randy moss in the draft.....just used him as an example.

never said the E boys cant have a good rookie season...... i just doubt they will have a GREAT ONE or a historical rookie season like NEWTON HAD!!!!!!

im still waiting on you to give me those roy tightends????lol

or you can give me a rookie TE who avg 17.2 yards???lol either one will suffice lol

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[quote name='BigSyke' timestamp='1361744379' post='2143441']



stop it chuck.


ty hilton had 7 tds with over 800 yards with an amazing 17,2 avg....umm thats a deep threat.....and hes not even close to randy moss...lol

plus he did it with a rookie qb while gronk and jimmy had elite qbs....YOU tell me who had the bigger IMPACT??

of course you wont because you dont want to admit that i been won the argument. lol

it does not have to be a moss for a wr to come in and have huge impact.....and i NEVER said there was a randy moss in the draft.....just used him as an example.

never said the E boys cant have a good rookie season...... i just doubt they will have a GREAT ONE or a historical rookie season like NEWTON HAD!!!!!!

im still waiting on you to give me those roy tightends????lol

or you can give me a rookie TE who avg 17.2 yards???lol either one will suffice lol
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Lol you too funny.
I'm not going to keep on yapping back and forth with you bc we good with each other.

But to end my argument, if I'm the GM I'm not even going to think twice taking Eifert if he's there at 44. For Ertz, I'll have to check who's available. If there's no receiver I think can impact right away, I'm taking Ertz.

TEs are a big part in the NFL today. Both SB teams this year uses the TE very well. Since you love the Patriots so much, always mentioning them take a sec and look at Gronk. If Gronk didn't get injured and played in the AFC Championship game, they wouldve very well have beaten the Ravens. Both Eifert and Ertz are going to be studs in the pro.

The receiver class last year was prob a better class with Jeffrey, Hill, and Floyd. Did one of those three win ROY?? All of them struggled mightily.

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[quote name='carolina-chuck' timestamp='1361751735' post='2143575']
Lol you too funny.
I'm not going to keep on yapping back and forth with you bc we good with each other.

But to end my argument, if I'm the GM I'm not even going to think twice taking Eifert if he's there at 44. For Ertz, I'll have to check who's available. If there's no receiver I think can impact right away, I'm taking Ertz.

TEs are a big part in the NFL today. Both SB teams this year uses the TE a very well. Since you love the Patriots so much, always mentioning them take a sec and look at Gronk. If Gronk didn't get injured and played in the AFC Championship game, they wouldve very well have beaten the Ravens. Both Eifert and Ertz are going to be studs in the pro.
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lol i love the pats now because i know my history lol

of course tight ends are becoming more apart of the offense...so is slot wide recievers...................

blah blah....tom brady owns pats...i could go there as a wr and would to make it to a couple of afc championships and catch nothing........... like chad lol

but since you want to use gronk they did nothing is his rookie year....remember thats what argument is about!!! he lost to mark sanchez in the first round lol

panther fans aint trying to wait to next 2 to 3 years down the road to have success...... with luck,rg3 and wilson all in the playoffs.....,;,.......

you act like these wr suck balls lol they dont the qbs are the ones who suck......no coach in his right mind would take a tightend over a wr...idk care who he is....

newton did nothing spectacular with both tightends ...still had losing record in his great rookie season......

still waiting on those those roy tight ends chuck!!!!! lol just admit im right and move on.

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of course chuck will quit the argument when he realizes that he has lost .....so i salute you on that brother.

now for a quick comparison saints rookie WR vs rookie TE...... with drew brees as qb

marques colston- played [b]14[/b] games [b]70 [/b]rec [b]1038 [/b]recyards [b]8 tds[/b]

jimmy graham-played 15 games 31 rec 356 recyards 5 tds


he outclassed him badly in his rookie year....its not even close...colston clearly had the bigger impact.....not to mention he has won a superbowl without him....


.sorry chuckie you lose....try next time......hope you not mad at me but a mans got to what mans got to do to prove his point...nothing personal my man...peace!

this argument is officially over.

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lol i love the pats now because i know my history lol

of course tight ends are becoming more apart of the offense...so is slot wide recievers...................

blah blah....tom brady owns pats...i could go there as a wr and would to make it to a couple of afc championships and catch nothing........... like chad lol

but since you want to use gronk they did nothing is his rookie year....remember thats what argument is about!!! he lost to mark sanchez in the first round lol

panther fans aint trying to wait to next 2 to 3 years down the road to have success...... with luck,rg3 and wilson all in the playoffs.....,;,.......

you act like these wr suck balls lol they dont the qbs are the ones who suck......no coach in his right mind would take a tightend over a wr...idk care who he is....

newton did nothing spectacular with both tightends ...still had losing record in his great rookie season......

still waiting on those those roy tight ends chuck!!!!! lol just admit im right and move on.
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U making a fool out of yourself asking me to show u these TEs that won ROY. Did TonyG, Sharper, etc win ROY??? The TE spot is one who doesn't get the recognition it deserves. The OROY always goes to a QB, WR, OT or RB.

Last year class was better at the receiver position with two sure receivers in Floyd and Jeffrey. Both struggled!!!

And I never said this class suck balls. I was the one who made the thread praising these receivers a while back. History just proves that it's a position where it's going to take time to develop.

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[quote name='BigSyke' timestamp='1361754430' post='2143614']
of course chuck will quit the argument when he realizes that he has lost .....so i salute you on that brother.

now for a quick comparison saints rookie WR vs rookie TE...... with drew brees as qb

marques colston- played [b]14[/b] games [b]70 [/b]rec [b]1038 [/b]recyards [b]8 tds[/b]

jimmy graham-played 15 games 31 rec 356 recyards 5 tds


he outclassed him badly in his rookie year....its not even close...colston clearly had the bigger impact.....not mention he has won a superbowl without him....


.sorry chuckie you lose....try next time......hope you not mad at me but a mans got to what mans got to do to prove his point...nothing personal my man...peace!

this argument is officially over.
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I mean if it make u happy that you won a silly argument on a forum where men get to live in fantasy, go ahead and be happy. I have too much in my life to worry about trying to win a pointless argument.

Let's save the facts for Gettleman to decide. Neither you or I know what's going on inside his head.

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[quote name='carolina-chuck' timestamp='1361754735' post='2143619']
U making a fool out of yourself asking me to show u these TEs that won ROY. Did TonyG, Sharper, etc win ROY??? The TE spot is one who doesn't get the recognition it deserves. The OROY always goes to a QB, WR, OT or RB.

Last year class was better at the receiver position with two sure receivers in Floyd and Jeffrey. Both struggled!!!

And I never said this class suck balls. I was the one who made the thread praising these receivers a while back. History just proves that it's a position where it's going to take time to develop.
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tony.g and sharper did nothing great to win the rookie of the year buddy. oh i forgot having 7 rec should make a tight end roy......PLEASE STOP.


history also proves that more wideouts have won roy while tight ends have never won. so yeah wr may take some time to develop but IF YOU KNOW HOW TO DRAFT THEN YOU CAN GET AN IMPACT PLAYER....

lol mike wallace was a 4th rounder...just proves my point. some people know how to judge talent and some people dont.


lol running back have won about 70 percent of the roy awards....but rookie quarterbacks get all the attention............right......

and if rg3,luck wouldnt have had so much hype alfred would have won this year.....but cant you see.....running backs and wideouts are [b]MORE[/b] likley to perform big in their rookie year...

look at morris...dude rushed for 1600 yards....the most in redskins history.....you ever heard of [b]JOHN fugKIN RIGGINS BOY[/b].....

yeah [i][b]you [/b][/i] tell me the last time a [b]ROOKIE TIGHT END CAME IN A BEAT OUT A 10+ YEAR OLD STAT BY A HALL OF FAMER and LEGEND[/b]..... and it wasnt like it was an[i][b] EASY [/b][/i]record either.

[b]ummph!!![/b] ill wait like its [i][b]christmas baby[/b][/i]......go head and [b]take your time[/b] brother.





[size=5][font='lucida sans unicode', 'lucida grande', sans-serif][b]this argument is over[/b][/font][/size]....stop wasting my time man if you dont got a good argument chuck.

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