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The Other Side of the Health Care Crisis

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This is the world in which we live... truth stranger than fiction. And the writing is on the wall for anyone with eyes to see. The older doctors are going to retire. We will have less doctors coming in because it is stupid to rack up the education bills, malpractice insurance, office overhead, etc and then hope that things don't get worse to get the living you hope for when all is said and done.

When history is re-written for a favorable outlook for those looking back, it will all be the loser's fault for whatever reason.

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This is the world in which we live... truth stranger than fiction. And the writing is on the wall for anyone with eyes to see. The older doctors are going to retire. We will have less doctors coming in because it is stupid to rack up the education bills, malpractice insurance, office overhead, etc and then hope that things don't get worse to get the living you hope for when all is said and done.

When history is re-written for a favorable outlook for those looking back, it will all be the loser's fault for whatever reason.

If america has too few doctors than money doesnt work as a motivator because they are consistently one of, if not the highest paid profession around.

From what I've seen, there are plenty of people going to med school, but everyone wants to go into a specialty instead of general practice- cause why go out and treat sick people all day when you can get paid more to read a few scans and run some outrageously priced tests

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You may want to start looking at properties in other countries. Because its not about republicans or democrats, America is pure capitalism.

I know what you are saying, but we are far from pure capitalism.

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I don't understand why so many people call what many people want in terms of coverage as "free healthcare" or making it free for everyone.

There is a difference between universal insurance coverage and universal access to healthcare and "free for everyone" healthcare.

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Because... with the way emergency rooms are treated, you can't be turned out regardless of ability to pay. Hence... free.

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The phrase "free health care" should be removed from discussions. There is no such thing. European nations are able to provide health care because they have some of the highest tax rates in the world Well, that and they have finally been able to avoid war over the past 60 plus years. They are also able to take advantage of the US market, in that the US conducts most of the research into new medicines, so they don't have to spend as much on research and developement. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% of all new medicines originate in the US. But free health care does not exist in Europe. They just balance the cost across most of the population.

Should the US ever move to a completely european style of medical care, this will allow wider access to health care, but will likely have some negative impacts as well, especially irt research and developement.

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The phrase "free health care" should be removed from discussions. There is no such thing. European nations are able to provide health care because they have some of the highest tax rates in the world Well, that and they have finally been able to avoid war over the past 60 plus years. They are also able to take advantage of the US market, in that the US conducts most of the research into new medicines, so they don't have to spend as much on research and developement. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 80% of all new medicines originate in the US. But free health care does not exist in Europe. They just balance the cost across most of the population.

Should the US ever move to a completely european style of medical care, this will allow wider access to health care, but will likely have some negative impacts as well, especially irt research and developement.

A move to euro style health care would only hurt innovation in the pharmaceutical industry if we change the laws regarding patent protection and limit the price of prescription drugs. The only reason these drug companies can afford to invest so heavily in R&D (and all those annoying drug ads on TV) is because we have laws set up to make these companies incredibly profitable.

Of course, considering so much of our health care money is covered by the government, we are essentially subsidizing all this research. So we have basically proven that investing lots of money can deliver scientific innovations

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A move to euro style health care would only hurt innovation in the pharmaceutical industry if we change the laws regarding patent protection and limit the price of prescription drugs. The only reason these drug companies can afford to invest so heavily in R&D (and all those annoying drug ads on TV) is because we have laws set up to make these companies incredibly profitable.

Of course, considering so much of our health care money is covered by the government, we are essentially subsidizing all this research. So we have basically proven that investing lots of money can deliver scientific innovations

Just be sure that your guys are in political power to ensure what research is deemed worthy

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've often thought about this very same situation. The issue with healthcare is that it really isn't amarket based business.

When your sick and you need treatment, you basically go to either your local emergency room or clinic, or to whoever your primary care doctor is and you pay whatever they decide to charge you.

It isn't like shopping fo a car where you have time to research who has the lowest cost solution.

Most health insurance plans actually make this problem worse. Think about it, if you get $10,000 worth of treatment, but only have a $25 copay, what do you care how much it costs?

I think the way to fix it is through normal free markets, but how do you make that apply to healthcare? As much as i hated being put on one, I think high deductable insurance plans help create that effect, but you'd have to have everyone on such a plan, and it would totally screw over people who couldn't afford the deductables.

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Health care should be priced like power, since both entities are essentially monopolies serving a geographically fixed customer base and require a lot of specialized infrastructure to operate. For some reason Obamacare and the private insurance companies are the devil but government controlled utilities are dandy.

Utility commissions set rates based on everyones one sided arguments and enforced by government. It's a good business because the commission generally understands the modest profit growth charter of a utility and controls rates as a buffer to the public. Company gripes about tightwad regulators. public gripes that the politicians gave Duke half the money they asked for, everyone is almost happy and rates are controlled.

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Health care should be priced like power, since both entities are essentially monopolies serving a geographically fixed customer base and require a lot of specialized infrastructure to operate. For some reason Obamacare and the private insurance companies are the devil but government controlled utilities are dandy.

Utility commissions set rates based on everyones one sided arguments and enforced by government. It's a good business because the commission generally understands the modest profit growth charter of a utility and controls rates as a buffer to the public. Company gripes about tightwad regulators. public gripes that the politicians gave Duke half the money they asked for, everyone is almost happy and rates are controlled.

Its not talked about as much on here because its been in place for so long that its not worth talking about, but Duke Power is still the devil to a lot of people, democrat or republican.

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Yeah, some of the lowest cost power in the nation but they need to trim your trees occasionally to keep it on for people.

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