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#11 thefuzz

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:46 AM

One of the most liberal states in the nation bringing down absurd policies on it's people....you don't say.

I bet they even allow random pat downs on the streets...

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

Using the tax code as a morality bludgeon is not in the purview of the Constitution for a reason


I'm shocked that you arent a fan of sin tax.

But fat people cost the government more than thin people in terms of health care costs, and fat people also consume more soda. The link between sugar and diabetes is pretty fuging clear, maybe this societal cost should be including in the cost of your sugar water?

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:57 AM

I'm shocked that you arent a fan of sin tax.

But fat people cost the government more than thin people in terms of health care costs, and fat people also consume more soda. The link between sugar and diabetes is pretty fuging clear, maybe this societal cost should be including in the cost of your sugar water?



Hummmm wait, so you are saying that programs that the federal government put into place to "help" people, is costing us a ton of money?

Now instead of changing the first program, we just need another program to help keep people off the first program?

Yes....more legislation, more money, more government jobs...

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

So you agree with this ban?


I'm in a weird in between place on things like this...the cost to care for people is going to rise dramatically. We are on the verge of a diabetic epidemic.

I understand the intent and am behind it....I don't agree with banning it though

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:23 PM

I'm in a weird in between place on things like this...the cost to care for people is going to rise dramatically. We are on the verge of a diabetic epidemic.

I understand the intent and am behind it....I don't agree with banning it though


agreed

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:39 PM

I'm shocked that you arent a fan of sin tax.

But fat people cost the government more than thin people in terms of health care costs, and fat people also consume more soda. The link between sugar and diabetes is pretty fuging clear, maybe this societal cost should be including in the cost of your sugar water?


Well, that is what being libertarian really is. We should be beholden to our own life's choices and to each other. Government is not supposed to be a parent to tell us right from wrong. They should protect our rights and very little beyond that. Once you are in the business of legislating morality, you are stepping into all the traps and pitfalls that have plagued civilization since our beginnings.

It doesn't mean that community doesn't have their own purview. It simply means that government's responsibility is to ensure that community does not infringe upon the rights of the individual/minority. Otherwise, majoritarian tyranny reigns as it almost always seems to do with pure democracies. If I wish to do something that is bad for me and no one else, that is my right. The converse of that is that I alone am responsible for the consequences of my actions.

i.e. - If I am irresponsible for my health, it is not the responsibility of everyone else to pick up the tab for my carelessness.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

Drinking Coke is now a sin? sin tax

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:41 PM

Drinking Coke is now a sin? sin tax


Anything could be a sin depending on who you ask

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:43 PM

smoking 1 cigarette is a sin?

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

smoking 1 cigarette is a sin?


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