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#25 carpanfan96

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:21 PM

so for all you people who dislike Kenny V. can you explain why he has been rated as the top saftey in the draft for almost a year?....




He's from a big school, performed well when placed close to the line of scrimmage and in man coverage or press situations. He's very aggressive and plays man coverage well. He's got ok speed and good hip fluidity when turning his hips. (look no further then his 20 yard shuffle at the combine for that) He's also given a bump because he has NFL bloodlines as his father played Professional football for 7 seasons out of Texas State.

That's the good part, the bad part is that he struggles as a deep defender, struggles in zone coverage and defending the seam. He's also prone to taking bad angles and going to far up field when helping on defense. His speed and athleticism are ok, not great. He lacks top end speed which hurts him when trying to catch up to a play or playing help defense on busted runs. He's not very fundamentally sound and that shows in his backpedal and zone coverage skills, not a natural smart instinctive player - which shows up in his angles, zone coverage skills and his over aggressiveness causes him to bite too much on play action plays.


He's got a 2nd/3rd round grade from the NFL.com/Draft site.
http://www.nfl.com/d...caro?id=2539320





Where as Cyprien (who I think is the best safety in the class) Has a thick build and plays smart, instinctive and aggressive . Also shows a knack for being bit up into play action plays but plays well in zone defense. He also takes much better angles on outside plays then Vaccaro. Same thing though, as far as weakness go. He lacks elite speed and athleticism to be a one deep safety.

Where he ends up will be determined on how well he performs at his pro day because of the hamstring injury at the combine. With a good showing he'll pass Vaccaro as the number 1 rated safety in the draft.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:34 PM

there are only a handful of great safeties in this league, much less were drafted in the top 14. i think safety here would be a luxury pick, which we dont have and could wait til the 2nd or even the 4th to get one.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 04:14 PM

He's from a big school, performed well when placed close to the line of scrimmage and in man coverage or press situations. He's very aggressive and plays man coverage well. He's got ok speed and good hip fluidity when turning his hips. (look no further then his 20 yard shuffle at the combine for that) He's also given a bump because he has NFL bloodlines as his father played Professional football for 7 seasons out of Texas State.

That's the good part, the bad part is that he struggles as a deep defender, struggles in zone coverage and defending the seam. He's also prone to taking bad angles and going to far up field when helping on defense. His speed and athleticism are ok, not great. He lacks top end speed which hurts him when trying to catch up to a play or playing help defense on busted runs. He's not very fundamentally sound and that shows in his backpedal and zone coverage skills, not a natural smart instinctive player - which shows up in his angles, zone coverage skills and his over aggressiveness causes him to bite too much on play action plays.


He's got a 2nd/3rd round grade from the NFL.com/Draft site.
http://www.nfl.com/d...caro?id=2539320





Where as Cyprien (who I think is the best safety in the class) Has a thick build and plays smart, instinctive and aggressive . Also shows a knack for being bit up into play action plays but plays well in zone defense. He also takes much better angles on outside plays then Vaccaro. Same thing though, as far as weakness go. He lacks elite speed and athleticism to be a one deep safety.

Where he ends up will be determined on how well he performs at his pro day because of the hamstring injury at the combine. With a good showing he'll pass Vaccaro as the number 1 rated safety in the draft.


but despite these weaknesses you point out the other competitions must have them and more in order for him to be considered number 1. i also think some of his weaknesses are over exaggerated besides his speed

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 06:34 PM

but despite these weaknesses you point out the other competitions must have them and more in order for him to be considered number 1. i also think some of his weaknesses are over exaggerated besides his speed


Best reason he is rated the #1 safety?


That is easy...


This is a terrible top end safety draft class.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 09:26 PM

Rather have Elam out of Florida. Can grab him in the second and he is more aggressive then Vaccaro and a better defender.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 10:11 PM

Yea id be pissed with a S at 14.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 05:28 PM

I want Elam.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:08 PM

I seen him miss a lot of tackles, I was not overly impressed with him.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 06:29 PM

Rather have Elam out of Florida. Can grab him in the second and he is more aggressive then Vaccaro and a better defender.


Yea I'd rather have Elam or Rambo in the 2nd.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:58 AM

Elam looks like he would be a beast of a SS.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 11:18 AM

You guys are crazy Vaccaro would be a great pick.




In the 4th. Oh wait poor tackling would keep him of ST..........6th then. ;)

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

Vaccaro will be lucky to be a first rounder. He is a figment of the media.