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[Porn Shop Clerk]

while i agree it's a problem, that mentality didn't fall out of the sky. institutional inequality didn't rise up to meet low expectations.

no its a vicious cycle that some people manage to break and others just succumb to the victim mentality of how unfair life is

Nature has no principles. She makes no distinction between good and evil.

-Anatole France

[Panthro]

I see that Panthro is still pissed that his below average intelligence and marginal work ethic have not garnered him one of those high paying executive jobs.

Surpringly I think you missed the point of the video Did you watch it?

No one is saying you madhatter are the problem. Stop being so defensive. Your 400k a year is laughable in zontext of this discussion.

[stirs]

Is there a corresponding "effort" inequality graph?

[Porn Shop Clerk]

we should just raise the minimum wage to 50$ an hour then everyone could be rich

[mmmbeans]

no its a vicious cycle that some people manage to break and others just succumb to the victim mentality of how unfair life is

Nature has no principles. She makes no distinction between good and evil.

-Anatole France

and some people never get a shot... because life (as we've constructed it) is unfair. this situation wasn't created in a vacuum, we aren't operating in the natural order... if we were, those with excess would've been strung up by the have-nots long ago, the whole point of civilization is act as a group to benefit the group.

[Porn Shop Clerk]

yeah those people that never get a shot mostly live in other countries.

you're talking about ways of thinking implemented on the parenting level.

[Panthro]

someone that's just living their life. you just can't wait to section people off into groups and demonize them with propaganda

sorry, not everyone falls into a category bro

Not trying to demonize you. Obviously you are wealthy because of your strong work ethic...just curious where you fell

[g5jamz]

http://newsfromvenez...une-at-around-2

[g5jamz]

Think PSC is saying he doesn't covet like you have a penchant to doing.

[mmmbeans]

yeah those people that never get a shot mostly live in other countries.

you're talking about ways of thinking implemented on the parenting level.

can you quantify that? as i understand, mobility for those born in the middle class is still alive and well... not so much for those born into poverty. In fact we lag behind most of the west in our class fluidity.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us/harder-for-americans-to-rise-from-lower-rungs.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

[mmmbeans]

Think PSC is saying he doesn't covet like you have a penchant to doing.

are you talking to me?

[g5jamz]

No

[Porn Shop Clerk]

can you quantify that? as i understand, mobility for those born in the middle class is still alive and well... not so much for those born into poverty. In fact we lag behind most of the west in our class fluidity.

http://www.nytimes.c...wanted=all&_r=0

poverty in america = middle class througout the rest of the world

how many children starve to death in america every day? can anyone pull that statistic?

born into poverty. what a fuging joke.

[Kurb]

Think PSC is saying he doesn't covet like you have a penchant to doing.

I don't get where you are forming this opinion from ?


Panthro is likely one of the "least concerned with what other people have" people I know.


I think he feels there is a significant Lack of Ladders to the Top. Especially for those born on the wrong side of the track.


While I feel this is partially true, what PSC is saying is also true.


Yes you were born in the trailer park.
Yes it's going to be harder for you than the kid whose parents make 1 Mill a year plus.
But that doesn't mean you can't be successful.

I think everyone can agree with that ?


If we could open more doorways to success for those who don't have it AND turn the corner on the defeatist culture that is prevalent (assumed) in lower income class brackets we could turn a corner not only as a country but as a generation.

Granted
is also true.


But that shouldn't be predetermined by where you were born or what race/sex you are.

[Panthro]

Think PSC is saying he doesn't covet like you have a penchant to doing.

I don't covet anyone. I do really well for myself...of course you assume I covet because that's your mentality. Don't project