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Drafting a Guard in the first round

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"elite talent" "special talent..." Its the same.

He basically help lead the way for possibly three straight 1st round picks(neither of the first two lived up to their bills of yet). Every single remark that is stated in that review is exceptional and exactly what you look for in a pick in the draft. Yeah Guards are cheap, but thats because they rarely come into the league with this type of ability.

San Fran took Iupati in the first a few years ago and now he is one of the best players in all of the NFL.

Iupati is not one of the best players in the NFL, he's not even the best G in the NFC. I can think of 3 in the NFC South alone I'd rather have.

These guys are quick with the "can't miss" tag, notice they didn't use it here, there's a reason. There was just as much love last year for the kid that went to the Steelers and shredded his knee, he lasted into the 20's for a reason,

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Iupati is not one of the best players in the NFL, he's not even the best G in the NFC. I can think of 3 in the NFC South alone I'd rather have.

These guys are quick with the "can't miss" tag, notice they didn't use it here, there's a reason. There was just as much love last year for the kid that went to the Steelers and shredded his knee, he lasted into the 20's for a reason,

DeCastro was not rated nearly as highly as Warmack. There is actually discussion out there of Warmack being the best player in this draft. Iupati was an All-Pro last year. You are crazy if you actually think there was even one better Guard in the NFC South.

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Yep, the top OG ends up "sliding" every year. But, he's not really sliding, he's just going where he was always going to go. Analysts hear scouts raving about the guy and think that means he's going to go in the top 15. No. They're raving about the guy, but he's still an OG. The best OG in the draft usually goes in the late 1st or early 2cd.

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DeCastro was not rated nearly as highly as Warmack. There is actually discussion out there of Warmack being the best player in this draft. Iupati was an All-Pro last year. You are crazy if you actually think there was even one better Guard in the NFC South.

OG simply isn't a premium position though. Even if he is the best prospect in the draft - which I don't think he is - it doesn't mean that he's going to go in the top half of the 1st round.

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OG simply isn't a premium position though. Even if he is the best prospect in the draft - which I don't think he is - it doesn't mean that he's going to go in the top half of the 1st round.

Usually more skill positions go in the early rounds. But this class is severely lacking in top end talent at the skill position. Instead its just loaded with mid level prospects that will be available in the later rounds.

If Floyd, Milliner, Joeckel, Fisher, Lotulelei, Ansah, L Johnson, Jordan, or Mingo are gone. I'd rather see us take the impact that Warmack can make for years with Cam than taking a flier on a player like Patterson or Richardson.

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Usually more skill positions go in the early rounds. But this class is severely lacking in top end talent at the skill position. Instead its just loaded with mid level prospects that will be available in the later rounds.

If Floyd, Milliner, Joeckel, Fisher, Lotulelei, Ansah, L Johnson, Jordan, or Mingo are gone. I'd rather see us take the impact that Warmack can make for years with Cam than taking a flier on a player like Patterson or Richardson.

Good point.

To hell with Mingo though. That dude just screams BUST. I've never seen such pedestrian stats out of a guy so highly regarded. Vernon Gholston all over again.

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DeCastro is an extremely polished guard out of Stanford who started for three consecutive years. While he is considered an early entry junior, he spent four years at Stanford and has already graduated. He is a disciplined and NFL-ready player who likely will warrant a starting spot immediately through his play. He could be one of the highest draft picks at the guard position in recent years, and he could easily go in the top 10.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/david-decastro?id=2533043

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DeCastro is an extremely polished guard out of Stanford who started for three consecutive years. While he is considered an early entry junior, he spent four years at Stanford and has already graduated. He is a disciplined and NFL-ready player who likely will warrant a starting spot immediately through his play. He could be one of the highest draft picks at the guard position in recent years, and he could easily go in the top 10.

http://www.nfl.com/d...stro?id=2533043

Compare that write up with what was said about Warmack in your previous post.

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I have, more than once.

I still don't think Warmack holds a top 15 grade simply by virtue of his position, same with RB's right now in the league.

I'm not saying Warmack isn't good or deserving of the hype, but his impact in the overall scheme of things will be minimized by his position. This, mind you, is coming from someone who believes strong line play is paramount to success.

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I think it's a complete waste. That position doesn't hold any value. Decent G's are too easy to find.

If this was true, then why haven't we found a solid pair of starters? That interior line, especially the guard position has not be the same in years. It's always a different guy. Then some other guard returns. Then one gets injured, then we draft one. It's never ending. Center is set. Tackles are..somewhat set. but the guards are the biggest question. Other than Amini, the other guard position is a huge question.

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Worst case he sures up that side of the oline. our run game improves. he makes Bell better. and Cam stays up right more often.

Best case we have an All-Pro on the team.

Worth the pick either way for us IMO.

Again there is a hand full of players I'd rather have, but that number is less than 14.

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You simply don't get much bang for your buck by drafting an OG in the first.

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