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#1 carolina-chuck

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:36 AM

I have mentioned this a few times already on other posts in the past hat Gettleman may take a NY approach to business. Since his 15 years with the NYG, they have only taken "three" offensive lineman in the early rounds. Both Snee and Beatty were 2nd rounders and only Petitgout was a 1st rounder. Other than that, it's been guys off FA for them.

Got a feeling we're going to sign a couple of veteran O-lineman soon. Maybe, by the end of this weekend we'll add a guy or two. There have been news that guys like Williams and Omayile are visiting, and we're in talk with Kevin Boothe. If Gettleman stays true to his NY philosophy, we'll be adding 1-2 of those guys soon.

Don't look for any sexy signings in FA or taking an OL in the first two rounds. I should have been smarter to not think that we were going to sign Antoine Cason. OL will probably be the only position we'll add in FA. Maybe a DT.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 02:51 AM

Jeff Hatch was a 3rd-rounder in 2002, but interesting point nevertheless. OL picks are conspicuously lacking.

By contrast they've drafted 8 defensive lineman with their first and second rounders alone in the same time period. This is partly what has me convinced we'll sign a vet OG (as Chuck said) and that we'll pay Hardy what he deserves when the time comes. Heavily investing in the defensive line wins you superbowl rings.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:03 AM

It's in our signatures, Chuck. He said it from the get go. Big men allow you to compete.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:08 AM

It's in our signatures, Chuck. He said it from the get go. Big men allow you to compete.


My point is, Gman is taking the approach he was taught how to build a championship team. Some people like me are here waiting for Gman to sign a CB, FS, DT, etc while we're forgetting his philosophy. That is, adding veteran OLs through FA.

I'm more relieved now knowing we're taking the same approach as the Gmen. I'm relieved not kicking my @ss every day bc we're not adding a sexy position.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:16 AM

Giants have had a pretty solid o-line for a while. Ours is one of our top 2 weaknesses. He'll fix that.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:19 AM

Giants have had a pretty solid o-line for a while. Ours is one of our top 2 weaknesses. He'll fix that.


We're not terrible. It has always been a struggle for our OLINE to play well early in the season. I can't ever remember a season where our OLINE didn't played poorly to start the season.

But, like i said i can wake up in the morning knowing our main goal in FA is to add veteran O-linemen. That's how NY Blue have done it since when, and it has worked for them.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 03:24 AM

Yep, given our cap problems and Gettleman's philosophy, signing a FA O-lineman makes the most sense. I'm annoyed that Schwartz is no longer an option; it would've been perfect.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 05:43 AM

We're gonna get some big men on the OL in FA. The more "sexy" picks will come in the draft, That's arguably the way that it should be. Get vets on the line, and draft your own (homegrown, if you will) play-makers.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:37 AM

I had a dream that we cut Gross and signed Jake Long...

But I agree, we gonna be picking up some FA O-lineman soon

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:45 AM

We're not terrible. It has always been a struggle for our OLINE to play well early in the season. I can't ever remember a season where our OLINE didn't played poorly to start the season.

But, like i said i can wake up in the morning knowing our main goal in FA is to add veteran O-linemen. That's how NY Blue have done it since when, and it has worked for them.


To me, this is a good point. I think we will see big improvement at LG, and LT and C are going to be good.

What I want to see is the right side of the line moving people in the run game. With Silatolu's ability to block in space (Pulling), we could really open the run game up with a bull dozer at RG and a good run-blocking RT. We are missing that right now.

I am not sure all of the candidates are here to interview for the RG position. I think RG and RT are going to be upgraded. Bell is good depth, but we need a stud RT.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:49 AM

I really hope we sign Boothe. I think with a solid vet like that beside him, Bell will be better. Then with Amini hopefully progressing and Kalil returning healthy our OL will return to being a strength of the team.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:52 AM

To me, this is a good point. I think we will see big improvement at LG, and LT and C are going to be good.

What I want to see is the right side of the line moving people in the run game. With Silatolu's ability to block in space (Pulling), we could really open the run game up with a bull dozer at RG and a good run-blocking RT. We are missing that right now.

I am not sure all of the candidates are here to interview for the RG position. I think RG and RT are going to be upgraded. Bell is good depth, but we need a stud RT.


Yea, to follow on to my previous post, if we were to sign Boothe I wouldn't feel concerned about having a rookie RT if they decided to upgrade from Bell. If Fluker somehow fell to the 2nd or there's another mauler RT available in the 2nd he'd have to be strongly considered if we have a strong vet at RG. I just wouldn't want to have a RT learning the ropes with a scrub like Hangman or some other comparable FA or a rookie beside him.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:55 AM

I would like to see this: Sign a RT to compete, go ahead and pay a little bit for a RG---Boothe would be worth a $12 million contract over 4 years, IMO. That would pretty much use up the rest of our cap space, so more moves need to be made.

Cut GWilliams, Hangartner and free up another $3 million. Sign a DT.

We have to enter the draft thinking, "We are getting 2 starters out of the draft." Draft DT (I think we need 2) and a CB or WR. In rounds 4-6, however, add depth at the OL. Get a raw, developmental LT project to groom for next season--since Gross did not cut his pay, this is his last season (someone like Quessenberry or Faulk). Get a G. Add a RB.

Every year, in the late rounds, draft a lineman.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 07:56 AM

D-line, db and wr were the vast majority of early picks for the nyg. We all know gettleman was not in charge of the draft there but nonetheless it's the exact opposite strategy we have used in the past. If nothing else it will be fun to try something new.

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Posted 16 March 2013 - 08:35 AM

I agree with the OP a lot but I really think that if Lane Johnson falls to them the Panthers will assuredly take him. Especially with the Gross situation brewing. If not I could see us going any number of other directions. I'd like to bring in a vet or two on both lines but as everyone loves to point out the cap is a problem. We'll have to wait until the price tags go way down to make that move.

The only thing that bothers me about taking a DT in the first round is the bust rate of DT's. Its about as risky of a pick as a quarterback. I'd be fine with a corner, OL, or S. Just find someone who can fill a hole and be a capable starter for the team for the next 4-5 years or more.


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