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#91 Woodie

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:34 PM

OL was poo with Kalil last year to be fair

But that was when Silatolu was struggling trying to figure out what the heck he was doing. So both Kalil and Gross had to cover for him, making both of their play seem much worse than what it would be with a competant LG. However, about mid-season, Silatolu started to figure it out and was a dramatically different player...which in and of itself should lead to an improvement over last year. So with Kalil's return and the expected improvement of Silatolu, I think the left side of our line will be much better than any time last year.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:37 PM

The fed has very limited "money printing" capabilities beyond like paying their employees.

If you had an idea what you're talking about you would have said the treasury, but you're most likely a ron paul supporter so god knows you're not constrained by the bounds of reality.


Party pooper.

Point being, they control/operate on intangible capital, "credit" if you will, meaning money is usually both baseless and worthless. But continue on making it your life's purpose to nitpick what specific department of our government is overseeing which specific failure if you please even if it all applies to the same principal. Oh noes, it messed up the joke.

#93 panthers55

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:42 PM

Whatever dude, I'm just not quite as impressed with the last 6 weeks as others. Trust me, I was rooting like we were in playoff games to win them all, but in hindsight those were all PR wins against equal or subpar NFL comp.

you are the one with the whatever attitude. I cant see how you can go to all the games and root like hell with that kind of defeatist attitude. Maybe it is me but I still go into every game expecting to win. We don't but I would hate to have such a negative attitude before the games even begin. Sad really....

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:50 PM

Oh, right. Forgot the Niners and Panthers were created in the same year. 10 years of Hurney has caused a lot of damage for a team so young.


Agreed the San Francisco team from the 1960s was pretty poor.

That seems relevant.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:51 PM

Party pooper.

Point being, they control/operate on intangible capital, "credit" if you will, meaning money is usually both baseless and worthless. But continue on making it your life's purpose to nitpick what specific department of our government is overseeing which specific failure if you please even if it all applies to the same principal. Oh noes, it messed up the joke.


Just pointing out where you're wrong. It doesn't take a lot of effort.

This isn't my life purpose or anything, this is just what i do while waiting for oly liftin videos to buffer.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:52 PM

seriously lol if you don't watch oly lifting

http://www.youtube.c...mE40&t=1h18m21s

#97 TheRumGone

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:53 PM

^wierd

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:53 PM

sorry, but you have some wholly unrealistic expectations.

what gettleman said he would like to do, his goal in managing the team, and what he's actually able to do because of the mess that hurney is obviously responsible for, are two very different things.

he can't do what he would like to do because he's stuck cleaning up a mess. it's not that hard to understand.

he is also doing what makes sense given our situation...waiting until the next wave of free agent activity to be active. the fact that he hasn't picked up really anyone so far is no indicator of future activity or inactivity. he's still trying to create room and it's very early.

I'm admittedly kind of anxious, but I'm not going to let myself get discouraged or freak out about personnel until we head into training camp. I'm not expecting top caliber talent being brought in, but i am expecting a few solid players brought in on the cheap with one or two year deals who will be decent starters.

personnel isn't what I'm worried about this year. its having a HC with poor game management skills and an OC who's a proven failure. coaching will hold us back more than the roster gettleman puts together...imo.



Those were his statements so if I am to believe him then its his fault if I am being unrealistic in my expectations.

I am also the same guy who supports Panthro's theory that his hands may be tied by Richardson and any shortcomings are not necessarily on Gettleman.

I also am the guy who got flamed in a thread where I asked people to name me a team who overpaid during the first wave of free agency on non qb's who reaped the rewards of it.

Now here was/is my expectation coming into the offseason..

Make the cuts he's made so far...Okay so I am with him there

Keep Captain or find a suitable nickel to replace him...I applauded the Florence deal btw

Find a way to retain Dwan and add someone like Canty who signed a 3 year/ 8 million dollar deal that has a 1.5 million cap hit in 13.

Find a suitable upgrade at free safety like Kenny Phillips who signed a 1 year 2 million dollar deal.

And as a bonus upgrade Hangman/Gary Wiliams or at least add some decent competition there for the starting RG spot.

Draft a new # 1 receiver and upgrade the depth on the lines via the draft.

Restructure Gross to free up some room to make these moves possible.

So all in all my expectations were for him to commit roughly about 6-8 million in cap dollars on retaining Dwan and adding 2 new defensive staters(DT/FS) for 13 and have a good a draft.

Now can he still do all of this? Absolutely, hence me not passing judgement just yet. However players like Chris Williams and Frank Omiyale are not what I had in mind. Sure they would likely sign for the vet minimum on a 1 year deal but why even waste the precious cap space on journeymen who could not make it on other teams in desperate need of o-ilne help?

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:54 PM

you are the one with the whatever attitude. I cant see how you can go to all the games and root like hell with that kind of defeatist attitude. Maybe it is me but I still go into every game expecting to win. We don't but I would hate to have such a negative attitude before the games even begin. Sad really....


Where did I say I go into games thinking we're gonna lose?

#100 panthers55

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

Where did I say I go into games thinking we're gonna lose?

I know you are a salesman so what do you tell yourself between what you are posting now and what you believe when you watch it live. Must do a good sales job on yourself...

#101 panther4life

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:59 PM

Where did I say I go into games thinking we're gonna lose?


Sometimes poster's will embellish upon what another poster said and try to twist it into some extreme that is not true to make their differing opinion seem more right.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:06 PM

Sometimes poster's will embellish upon what another poster said and try to twist it into some extreme that is not true to make their differing opinion seem more right.


haha

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:12 PM

like watch how fuging awesome ilya is here setting a cj world record like a fuging boss

http://www.youtube.c...mE40&t=1h36m35s

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:12 PM

sorry, but you have some wholly unrealistic expectations.

what gettleman said he would like to do, his goal in managing the team, and what he's actually able to do because of the mess that hurney is obviously responsible for, are two very different things.

he can't do what he would like to do because he's stuck cleaning up a mess. it's not that hard to understand.

he is also doing what makes sense given our situation...waiting until the next wave of free agent activity to be active. the fact that he hasn't picked up really anyone so far is no indicator of future activity or inactivity. he's still trying to create room and it's very early.

I'm admittedly kind of anxious, but I'm not going to let myself get discouraged or freak out about personnel until we head into training camp. I'm not expecting top caliber talent being brought in, but i am expecting a few solid players brought in on the cheap with one or two year deals who will be decent starters.

personnel isn't what I'm worried about this year. its having a HC with poor game management skills and an OC who's a proven failure. coaching will hold us back more than the roster gettleman puts together...imo.



I agreed with much of your post. Regarding the part I have highlighted .......I have to hope that Rivera and Shula have learned a lot. I think that Rivera will have his team looking more like the last part of the year rather than the first. Shula has waited a log time for this 2nd chance. Could they both fail? Sure. But I am hoping for growth for both of them. I hope they pleasantly surprise us all.

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 10:13 PM

Sometimes poster's will embellish upon what another poster said and try to twist it into some extreme that is not true to make their differing opinion seem more right.

You sound like the voice of experience on that subject.......


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