Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Squirrel

Why Passing on a WR in the first might not be a option

187 posts in this topic

Yeah let's only post scouts that fit your opinion. Not to mention you didn't even list the weaknesses those scouts had on Patterson.

No, I don't follow ESPN for anything at all draft scouting related.

One of the ones I posted was just the overall picture and it included weaknesses. I also included the links for both of the quotes I made.

Not my fault that it comes from one of the most trusted sites with the NFL. You know NFL.com with information from NFL paid scouts and the NFL draft advisory board.

The site that calls him one of the most physically gifted WR's of the past few drafts. I also noted that everyone knows his weakness with route running and his mental lapses. Though the route running is a weakness of most college prospects and the mental lapses can't be too often because of his low drop percentage and high catch to thrown to percentage.

All of his weaknesses are correctable because he has a high football IQ, which was also noted in the links I posted.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd be ok with either WR or OL at #14. But I do think that OL has more chance to be the BPA at that position.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Its really hard to determine what holes we need to fill in the first when we have so many of them.i guess we will wait and see what Rivera and Gettlemen think. It does make for interesting conversation.I think Gettlemen would like to take the BPA but I am not sure we are in a position to do so.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1. Get a QB

2. Give him protection

3. Give him weapons

Falcons went the other way

1. Get a QB

2. Give him weapons (Gonzo, Turner, Jones)

3. Give him protection

Just saying there are several ways to do this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

All this being said with "The Don's" back ground I wouldnt be surprised to see us draft a DE.. would get the same reaction as last years Luke pick.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

^ Yeah but not everyone has a Gm that knows how to pick starting talent in any round.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lol if you think NFL scouts sit around in rooms peeing their pants over "bust percentages"

I swear the hurneywashing that this fanbase has so deeply rooted in their minds is just so sad to see

So if scouts and GMs are not worried about the bust potential of wide receivers then why have few been chosen the last couple of years in a pass happy league?? In 2011, 3 wide receivers went in the first round. And again 2 of those 3 were top 10 and rare.

AJ Green- taken 5th- 97 receptions, 1350 yards, 11 TDS

Julio Jones- taken 8th, 79 receptions, 1198 yards 10 TDs

Now the other first rounder who is more akin to what is in this draft.

Jonathan Baldwin-

20 receptions- 325 yards 1 TD.

Last year there were 4. By the way how did those four do??

Blackmon- top 5 pick- 64 catches- 865 yards 5 TDs

Michael Floyd- 13th pick , 45 receptions, 562 yards, 2 TDs

Kendall Wright- 20th pick- 64 receptions, 626 yards, 4 TDs

AJ Jenkins- 30th pick- 0 receptions

Not a thousand yard receiver among them . So if there is a Julio Jones or AJ Green then lets pick them up. Otherwise most of the guys out there are not an upgrade over what we have.

But lets ignore the percentages and lets ignore the facts. Lets get a WR in the draft no matter what. I swear the hurneybashing this fanbase has is so deep rooted they ignore the facts and realities and blame him for everything...............

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Again why does a WR have to be elite to be taken in the 1st round? and 3 out of 4 of those rookies would have had more catches then LaFell.1000 yard season for a rookie WR is great, but lets not act like the numbers Wright, Floyd and Blackmon put up where slouches especially when they would had better numbers then our own #2 WR.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Again why does a WR have to be elite to be taken in the 1st round? and 3 out of 4 of those rookies would have had more catches then LaFell.1000 yard season for a rookie WR is great, but lets not act like the numbers Wright, Floyd and Blackmon put up where slouches especially when they would had better numbers then our own #2 WR.

they don't.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

All this being said with "The Don's" back ground I wouldnt be surprised to see us draft a DE.. would get the same reaction as last years Luke pick.

Is Greg Hardy coming off an achillis injury and CJ 3 ACL's....both questionable to perform in 2013? Was DE play a disaster in 2012 b/c of injury?

LB was a need when Luke was drafted

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is Greg Hardy coming off an achillis injury and CJ 3 ACL's....both questionable to perform in 2013? Was DE play a disaster in 2012 b/c of injury?

LB was a need when Luke was drafted

I get you - but what I was referring to is just how the Giants drafted JPP when they clearly didnt 'need' him. If we go BPA it might just as easily be a DE.

I dont think it will be - but I wouldnt rule it out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Again why does a WR have to be elite to be taken in the 1st round? and 3 out of 4 of those rookies would have had more catches then LaFell.1000 yard season for a rookie WR is great, but lets not act like the numbers Wright, Floyd and Blackmon put up where slouches especially when they would had better numbers then our own #2 WR.

Just to be Fair.

Blackmon - Got 133 targets compared to Lafell 76 that's just as many targets as 89. Played in 2 and a half more games and didn't have TE like Olsen taking away touches.

Wright - got 104 targets compared to Lafell 76. Didn't have more yards and they were even in TD. Again Wright was the main target with no TE like Olsen on the team and the funny part is Lafell had better numbers then Kenny Brit with 14 less targets.

Floyd - Didn't have better numbers. Played in more games. Had 10 more targets. And didn't have a TE like Olsen to take touches away.

So only 2 out of the 4 put up better numbers and all had more passes thrown their way.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites