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Posted 29 March 2013 - 02:38 PM

Ok, I must say I slipped on Short. This dude is a BEAST. Every video I watch on him he is getting TFL and sacks. An absolute terror on the line.

Who every gets this guy is gonna have a good one. People are severally underestimating / undervaluing this kid.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:34 PM

I need to take a second look, I suppose.

I would caution judging defensive players in the senior bowl, however. The offenses are very vanilla and the OL is so mixed up there is no chemistry.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 03:36 PM

Watch my favorite late round DT, Boyd from Miss St.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

Ok, I must say I slipped on Short. This dude is a BEAST. Every video I watch on him he is getting TFL and sacks. An absolute terror on the line.

Who every gets this guy is gonna have a good one. People are severally underestimating / undervaluing this kid.


Yeah the kid is a beast. He's probably been the most productive DL in this draft. If it wasn't for the inconsistent motor he'd be a sure fire 1st round pick. I hope he falls but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he doesn't.

Another thing is that Short, like several of the top DL, will be 25 by the time next season ends, which I found interesting.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 05:37 PM

Watched a lot of his videos. He seems to lack mobility side to side, Also he seemed to give up on plays quite often. Out of the 2nd round dt's, my favorite is Sylvester Williams.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 06:03 PM

Watched a lot of his videos. He seems to lack mobility side to side, Also he seemed to give up on plays quite often. Out of the 2nd round dt's, my favorite is Sylvester Williams.


I don't think he'll be there in the 2nd but if he is I'd take Williams too. One of my favorite players in the draft.

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 04:53 PM

I've been on the Short wagon since the beginning of the year. I think he represents the best value in the draft. I wouldn't mind taking him outright at 14 but we could probably trade back and still get him. Nobody in this class has his level of productivity.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 12:15 AM

I've been on the Short wagon since the beginning of the year. I think he represents the best value in the draft. I wouldn't mind taking him outright at 14 but we could probanly tarde back and still get him. Nobody in this class has his level of productivity.


his tackles for loss and sacks the past 2 years cant be touched.

people will be kicking themselves for passing on Short imo

has a real nose for the ball and getting in the backfield.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 06:02 PM

He takes plays off and is really inconsistent, but he does have potential to be good if a coach keeps him going. I think there will be better options for us, but hopefully we can get our DT and WR of the future with our first two picks.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 03:23 PM

Why do people automatically assume UT's are weak against the run?

I don't know much about him, but paired with Dwan I think they'd make for a pretty solid line.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 05:17 PM

paired with Dwan I think they'd make for a pretty solid line.


Dwan graded out negative as a pass rusher and was even worse in run defense. 6 Sacks does not represent who he was as a player.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:35 PM

Ok, I must say I slipped on Short. This dude is a BEAST. Every video I watch on him he is getting TFL and sacks. An absolute terror on the line.

Who every gets this guy is gonna have a good one. People are severally underestimating / undervaluing this kid.

the problem is that he has that potential and his highlight clips look awesome, but when people have taken time to actually look at whole games they don't see anything close to that the rest of the time. i've heard several say he is the most or one of the most frustrating prospects because of how good he is in flashes but how bad he is most of the time. no one knows who is the guy that's going to get drafted. that's why he's slipped so far.

these comments from greg cossell are pretty typical:

"He was a very frustrating player to watch. I think he's a splash player with some desirable traits, but a glaring lack of consistent effort and execution. He teased. He has plus attributes, but he did not play to them consistently. I thought effort was a concern, and he did not play with a lot of competitive urgency."

to me this just screams "let him be someone elses headache." he may pay off, but i'd rather go after other guys....even at DT.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:40 PM

I dont just watch the highlights tapes. He impresses me in pretty much all the vids i see. People are oveblowing this effort thing imo.

He has almost 3 times the amount of TFL and sacks as Flyod.

Which game / vid you watch were he didnt do well?

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:58 PM

I dont just watch the highlights tapes. He impresses me in pretty much all the vids i see. People are oveblowing this effort thing imo.

He has almost 3 times the amount of TFL and sacks as Flyod.

Which game / vid you watch were he didnt do well?

i've seen several.

looked at one just now that i kind of randomly selected not knowing any stats or anything and what i saw was 3 pretty big plays (would have been 4 where he made what would have been a tackle for loss, except he tackled the wrong guy...still impressive, tho). but for the most part it was pretty blah.

here's the one i watched...


i don't think it would take long to find more that showed the same thing.

to a small degree he reminds me of peppers who had a couple huge plays every game, but for most of the time he just wasn't all that spectacular. what i saw in short was a guy who could take advantage of holes that showed up (which happens in every game) and being able to completely capitalize on them (which should happen), but he doesn't seem like the guy that is constantly disrupting the pocket or stressing the QB. just occassionally. when he does, it's impressive. it just doesn't happen often enough.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:05 PM

he is an UT, we have alot more pressing needs than a UT.



We run a 4-3.


The emphasis you guys put on a "UT" and "NT" is simply astounding.

Very few 4-3 teams have a true 1 tech. I'm pretty sure that a 4-3 in its purest, most original form doesn't have one at all.


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