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#46 stirs

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Posted 31 March 2013 - 05:44 PM

I don't agree with every thing rep and don't disagree with everything dem.

I never have voted straight ticket. I think any rational, open minded person would have a harder time voting for one party only.


If the Huddle is a credible microcosm, "rational, open minded" voters might make up less than 10%. Just sayin....

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 03:23 AM

hey pstall just whenever you get around to it can you please list the actual benefits of eliminating straight ticket voting? perhaps this time without going off on a dumb tangent about how it will make the voter base "more informed" somehow (it won't)?

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:58 AM

So by saying it won't make someone more informed you concede straight ticket voters don't know who or what they are voting for?



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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:06 PM

They would hit everything with R or D on it. Instead of one button that says R or D. Yes, let's get this out there instead of job creation ideas or anything else.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:16 PM

I know right. This is the only thing on my plate right now. Next you guys are gonna want me to drive and listen to the radio. At the SAME time.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:17 PM

The name recognition signs on each corner and intersection might triple

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:50 PM

They would hit everything with R or D on it. Instead of one button that says R or D. Yes, let's get this out there instead of job creation ideas or anything else.


How about not putting R nor D next to the candidates?

God forbid that someone actually know who a candidate is or what they actually stand for before voting for them.....and this goes for those in BOTH parties.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 05:39 PM

How about not putting R nor D next to the candidates?

God forbid that someone actually know who a candidate is or what they actually stand for before voting for them.....and this goes for those in BOTH parties.


then the first name listed would win every time

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:25 PM

How about not putting R nor D next to the candidates?

God forbid that someone actually know who a candidate is or what they actually stand for before voting for them.....and this goes for those in BOTH parties.


this is a fascinating idea.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:41 PM

I have said for years that whether it be in newspapers or on the news, don't use the R or D beside anyones name. Some people the moment they see one of those letters they instantly tune them out.

People would be very surprised to find out who they agree or disagree with.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

So by saying it won't make someone more informed you concede straight ticket voters don't know who or what they are voting for?


straight ticket voters aren't any less informed than say, the guy (let's call him pstall) who votes 75% republican and 25% democratic because *feelings*

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:00 PM

then the first name listed would win every time


you probably aren't serious but they could just randomize order of names on each ballot so the person at the top of one ballot won't always be the same, at least on computerized ballots :P

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:04 PM

i say if we really want informed voters we should quiz them when they arrive at the polling station

call it some sort of poll test. perhaps a literacy test.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:06 PM

you probably aren't serious but they could just randomize order of names on each ballot so the person at the top of one ballot won't always be the same, at least on computerized ballots :P


there is a bias when it comes to the first name listed. They wouldn't win every time but still

If the intent is to make people research their candidates, then you haven't fixed anything. You'll just have people voting on other stupid random factors like names and whatnot.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 09:10 PM

yeah I don't think that you're going to force people to research candidates any better no matter what you do inside the voting booth either, just saying that the person "listed at the top" wouldn't win all the time if we were talking about electronic voting anyway.

only real way to make people do more research would be to find a way to get more people personally invested in the process. a lot of people are straight ticket voters, sure, and maybe they're "the problem", but I think the problem is more that the system has alienated a fairly large number of people into thinking the individual they are voting for doesn't matter as much as the party. at least on the national scale =|


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