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#97 Delhommey

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:16 PM

I have never called Nawrocki a duck. I've just pointed out his webbed feet, waddle, and incessant quacking.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:18 PM

I've already addressed Jimmy's limo situation as well as PFW directly cited his private school background (unmentioned: he grew up in a very ritzy town) and the fact that his parents bought him a house in South Bend as direct causes/examples of his elitism.

I asked for baseless examples. Still your move.


Guessing you missed where I mentioned the parts about the Geno Smith profile that I thought were baseless.

But see, here's the thing. Every one of these things has a "base" but it's found in someone's evaluation, which is essentially an opinion except where it cites particular incidents in the player's background.

Sometimes those opinions are wrong, but "wrong" isn't synonymous with "racist". And I've given you plenty of examples where white QBs had highly negative personal items in their evaluation. There are worse ones than those, mind you, but I was sticking with names people would recognize.

I'm still waiting for you to show me something that proves the negative elements of the analyses are based on race. If you're sure that they are, you should be able to find evidence of it, right?

Unless of course, you can't.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:20 PM

I'm not seeing anything in those posts consisting of "Mr. Scot is a racist". Try again.


Blue Boy's "racist lover" post was deleted.

But since you're not convinced, how bout if I just ask you directly. Do you think I'm a racist?

And don't cop out with "I don't know". You have an opinion. Have the guts to say it.

And while you're at it, if you say "yes" then surely you'll have posts of mine that back it up, right? By all means, link them in.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:24 PM

Blue Boy's "racist lover" post was deleted.

But since you're not convinced, how bout if I just ask you directly. Do you think I'm a racist?

(and don't cop out with "I don't know"; you have an opinion; have the guts to say it)


Blue Boy has to be someone having a good time with an alt, let's not even use him as an example please.

No I don't think you are a racist. I'm pretty sure I've said this before. I will say that you have blinders on to certain things though.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:24 PM

I have never called Nawrocki a duck. I've just pointed out his webbed feet, waddle, and incessant quacking.


Translation: "I don't need evidence. The accusation is enough."

Bravo on that forward thinking.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:27 PM

Blue Boy has to be someone having a good time with an alt, let's not even use him as an example please.

No I don't think you are a racist. I'm pretty sure I've said this before. I will say that you have blinders on to certain things though.


Guess what? I think there are things you're wrong about too. I like to call it "disagreeing".

Appreciate the statement. In the future, refrain from making any about implications about my character and I'll do the same for you.

Deal?

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:42 PM

Guessing you missed where I mentioned the parts about the Geno Smith profile that I thought were baseless.

But see, here's the thing. Every one of these things has a "base" but it's found in someone's evaluation, which is essentially an opinion except where it cites particular incidents in the player's background.

Sometimes those opinions are wrong, but "wrong" isn't synonymous with "racist". And I've given you plenty of examples where white QBs had highly negative personal items in their evaluation. There are worse ones than those, mind you, but I was sticking with names people would recognize.

I'm still waiting for you to show me something that proves the negative elements of the analyses are based on race. If you're sure that they are, you should be able to find evidence of it, right?

Unless of course, you can't.


I asked for baseless examples. Still your move.

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Posted 01 April 2013 - 11:56 PM

I asked for baseless examples. Still your move.


Can't find them on your own or just trying to deflect?

Frankly, there aren't many things in PFW that I've found completely "baseless". The Geno Smith thing mentioned above is one. As for other stuff, I'd say some of it was poor interpretation, just plain wrong thinking or bad sources (which is what I attribute the Newton stuff to, and could well be the story with Smith as well) but the vast majority of the analysis - as in the above examples - has been largely on target.

Bottom Line: The "baseless" stuff isn't the norm, and if you actually took the time to read more than just the one or two profiles cited here, you might be able to see that.

Except, of course, that you don't seem to want to see that, which I'd guess is why you're avoiding actually examining any draft profiles other than Newton's or Smith's. Easier to just deflect and declare victory, right?

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:06 AM

I haven't waivered in my request.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:21 AM

Guess what? I think there are things you're wrong about too. I like to call it "disagreeing".

Appreciate the statement. In the future, refrain from making any about implications about my character and I'll do the same for you.

Deal?


Well that would be me admitting to something that I haven't done. Not every person is throwing out subtle implications just because they happen to disagree with anothers viewpoint. If everyone on the internet agreed with each other it would be a mindless desolate wasteland, or North Korea. Maybe this place has made you paranoid over time. Anyway, I'm tired and this thread has run it's course.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 12:59 AM

meh... I'm beginning to think Nawrocki is doing this just to generate press so people buy his pubs. I don't see how else he can keep putting out stuff that is so completely contradicted by so many other sources. So yes, maybe someone told him that. Are you telling me that this guy is stupid enough not to realize scouts lie, and not smart enough get multiple opinions, particularly after the Cam stuff?

Maybe he's a racist, maybe he just has some biases that show up sometimes (note: just because some guy doesn't poo on every black QB doesn't mean he isn't being racially bias when he makes totally unsubstantiated claims), but I think it's more likely he's counting on threads like this showing up on message boards across the country to generate him some word of mouth.

That Barkley piece, ugh.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 01:15 AM

give yourselves a well needed pat on the back...alls yall



mr.scott is a deflecting white night.

the red is fiery, dont messwitm cause he bad.

calvin and hobbes is mr.scotts son and is smarter than all of you...pretty sure thats spot on.

delhomey is waiting.......still waiting....hes really tired and doesnt feel like typing....still waiting...

daddy uncle is a funny fugr again while being a weeny that cant say a wrong thing, ever.

p4l still overachieving

stirs stirring

kurb aka the ref

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