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Sheldon Richardson, is he even a good fit here?


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#61 Saxist Fed

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:08 PM

Strictly looking at who can fit best, I think Star, Jesse, Brandon, & Sylvester Williams make the grade. Can play 1 through 3 tech. I don't think we need a strict NT or a 3-tech only type moreso a guy that can play with multiple rotations on the line.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 10:48 PM

Yes, because your logic dictates that players like our very own Kuechly, Beason, C. Johnson, Stewart, Smith, etc and other elite players across the league such as A. Rodgers, Megatron, M. Ryan, V. Miller, Fitzgerald, JJ Watt, etc don't hold a candle to SEC products. That's a flawed argument.

These prospects are individual talents, not squads. Conferences and divisions don't mean diddy squat at the end of the day.



If you're going to make a judgement off a youtube film of each player then you must take into account that one player was facing better talent. Plain and simple. It's not that hard to understand.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 11:36 PM

If you're going to make a judgement off a youtube film of each player then you must take into account that one player was facing better talent. Plain and simple. It's not that hard to understand.


Again, your logic is flawed. Plain and simple. If a prospect is talented enough to compete in the NFL, then it doesn't matter if he's facing D-II talent or if he plays in the PAC-10. You're making it seem like the SEC is a breeding ground for NFL success -- it's not. College success doesn't equal Pro-Level success. If it did, then The Golden Calf of Bristol would be a Top 10 QB in the NFL.

It's truly and empathetically that elementary. You would have to be so inane, simple-minded and naive (more so than one of Kim Kardashian's brain cells) to arrive at such a conclusion.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:01 AM

It looks like Richardson benched 30 reps which is the same number as Williams.

Sweet observation. Still sucks and is less effective at his job than Williams at his. This guy is a good athlete but folks on here are billing him as a freak and a guy who is a great pass rusher...It is just not true, he is a good athlete who hustles very hard but rarely seals the deal. Combine this with his obvious weakness of power runs at him (his does much better when teams run away from him and he gets chase downs) and I see a guy who is a second round prospect.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:22 AM

Richardson is a stellar athlete. His speed and dexterity amaze me but he's a potential bust because he gets pushed around by average talent that outweighs him by 10-15 lbs and has a low football IQ (his ability to diagnose plays downright blows).

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 12:59 AM

Again, your logic is flawed. Plain and simple. If a prospect is talented enough to compete in the NFL, then it doesn't matter if he's facing D-II talent or if he plays in the PAC-10. You're making it seem like the SEC is a breeding ground for NFL success -- it's not. College success doesn't equal Pro-Level success. If it did, then The Golden Calf of Bristol would be a Top 10 QB in the NFL.

It's truly and empathetically that elementary. You would have to be so inane, simple-minded and naive (more so than one of Kim Kardashian's brain cells) to arrive at such a conclusion.



You have to be 1 of the dumbest MFers on this site.

Idiot you are making a judgment from a youtube video. One players is facing Nfl talent the other is facing a future Sales Rep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x1EGquKKEs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK90kPWzEzo

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:11 AM

Is that your retort? Calling me a dumb MFer doesn't solidify your case. How about you give a legitimate reason as to why playing in the SEC translates into professional success when over half that talent will be seeking civilian careers after they graduate regardless. Assuming, of course, you can formulate a proper debate point.

It doesn't take a scout to see his shortcomings on YouTube, Einstein. If I can see them so vividly, then so can scouts and coaches.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:23 AM

Is that your retort? Calling me a dumb MFer doesn't solidify your case. How about you give a legitimate reason as to why playing in the SEC translates into professional success when over half that talent will be seeking civilian careers after they graduate regardless. Assuming, of course, you can formulate a proper debate point.

It doesn't take a scout to see his shortcomings on YouTube, Einstein. If I can see them so vividly, then so can scouts and coaches.



http://www.al.com/sp...mbers_nf_5.html

42 SEC players drafted, more than from any other conference. It's the sixth consecutive year in which the SEC has topped the nation's conferences in draft picks. The SEC edged the Big Ten by one selection. The Big Ten led until the final 12 picks, which included South Carolina DB Antonio Allen, Alabama TE Brad Smelley and South Carolina DT Travian Robertson from the SEC and Michigan State RB Edwin Baker from the Big Ten. This year, 16.6 percent of the players picked came from the SEC. The SEC record for most players in one draft is 56 in 1951, when 15.5 percent of the players picked came from the SEC. The highest percentage of drafted players from the SEC in one year came in 2010, when the 49 picks from the conference made up 19.2 percent of the draft class.

139 Consecutive rounds in which at least one SEC player has been picked. The most recent round without an SEC selection was the second in 1993. Since that round, at least two SEC players have been picked in every round except four. This year, nine SEC players were picked in the first round, five in the second round, two in the third round, 10 in the fourth round, six in the fifth round, four in the sixth round and six in the seventh round.

65 Consecutive drafts in which at least one SEC player has been selected in the first round. This year, nine SEC players were first-round picks. The most recent NFL draft in which an SEC player was not selected in the first round was 1947, although the first SEC player picked that year, LSU B Red Knight, was taken by the Redskins with the 17th selection, which would have put him in the middle of the first round this year.

Now show me the Division 2 stats in the draft??

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:30 AM

http://www.examiner....ide-the-numbers

386 SEC players in the NFL

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:31 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x1EGquKKEs

watching this right now. Alabama is running on MIzzou at will, of course they did that to everyone though

definitely looks a lot better as a pass rusher


im not backing this pick anymore.

im seeing what everyone is saying... we need to go bigger in the middle. he's getting pushed around a bit too much, not worth a 14th or 44th and he doesnt fit our need.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:47 AM

im not backing this pick anymore.

im seeing what everyone is saying... we need to go bigger in the middle. he's getting pushed around a bit too much, not worth a 14th or 44th and he doesnt fit our need.



Seriously how many times did you see him get push back compare to how many times he got in the Backfield.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 01:53 AM



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:12 AM

Seriously how many times did you see him get push back compare to how many times he got in the Backfield.


too many for us to consider picking him.

fugit.. if warmack/cooper are there..snag'm.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:13 AM

Im actually starting to like this dude, his first step is terrific without jumping the snap count if he's in the second(which i doubt) get this dude might even like him at the 14 pick. In this leauge DT's like him are going to become the cream of the crop

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 02:17 AM

too many for us to consider picking him.

fugit.. if warmack/cooper are there..snag'm.



Of course do you have any numbers in there some where on your breakdown or are you just FOS?


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