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#1 CharlottePanther

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:51 PM

Seriously, we have worked 10 WRs. 10! We have not had any private workouts with Sheldon Richardson yet whatsoever. Are the so called draft experts" just putting down Sheldon Richardson by default just out of laziness, seriously. How can we have meetings with 10 different WRs and no meetings with Richardson, yet its unamious that all the experts say hes the guy and they wont budge?

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 09:53 PM

Seriously, we have worked 10 WRs. 10! We have not had any private workouts with Sheldon Richardson yet whatsoever. Are the so callec draft "experts" just putting down Sheldon Richardson by default just out of laziness, seriously. How can we have meetings with 10 different WRs and no meetings with Richardson, yet ots unamious that all the experts say hes the guy and they wont budge.



We didn't meet with Barron last year but if he would have drop to us he was going to be the pick.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:08 PM

I absolutely agree with the OP, that the Richardson picks are just lazy. I had the exact same thought the other day. However, I don't think it's a bad pick necessarily. It just seems like a prime example of "it's the Panthers/Jaguars/Bills/other team with a smaller fanbase. who cares just toss someone in that plays a position of need regardless of details". This phenomenon because especially prevalent when picking in the mid to later rounds. When these sort of teams pick early, there's more thought put into it because there's still elite players to assign. But once you get out of the top 5-10, the effort drops significantly.

A little thought or research would reveal that our pass rush is good, but our run defense sucks. So we need a run defender and someone to keep blockers off our excellent LBs. While I think Richardson will be a stud, he doesn't exactly fit that profile.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:13 PM

I absolutely agree with the OP, that the Richardson picks are just lazy. I had the exact same thought the other day. However, I don't think it's a bad pick necessarily. It just seems like a prime example of "it's the Panthers/Jaguars/Bills/other team with a smaller fanbase. who cares just toss someone in that plays a position of need regardless of details". This phenomenon because especially prevalent when picking in the mid to later rounds. When these sort of teams pick early, there's more thought put into it because there's still elite players to assign. But once you get out of the top 5-10, the effort drops significantly.

A little thought or research would reveal that our pass rush is good, but our run defense sucks. So we need a run defender and someone to keep blockers off our excellent LBs. While I think Richardson will be a stud, he doesn't exactly fit that profile.


Blaze I think he's a lot better against the run then he gets credit for.

Plain and simple he is the 3rd best DT in this draft and maybe in a position where a team who needs DT can get him.

Plus Steve Smith was on a radio show in Charlotte and brought his name up as a option for us. When he was asked about the draft.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:19 PM

same reason people mocked Poe or whoever last year....



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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:23 PM

Yes they are, since smitty wants him too. It's easier to mock him to us. It it is me too because I look forward to new mocks and seeing Richardson at #14 be the only thing that remains the same.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:00 AM

Blaze I think he's a lot better against the run then he gets credit for.

Plain and simple he is the 3rd best DT in this draft and maybe in a position where a team who needs DT can get him.

Plus Steve Smith was on a radio show in Charlotte and brought his name up as a option for us. When he was asked about the draft.


Like I said, I think he'll be a stud in the NFL. He's good at running down plays that go away from him since he's got the best motor I've ever seen in a DT, but if they run at him and put two blockers on him he'll get buried. He's just too light and too high of a center of gravity. If we already had a solid NT to put beside him he'd be my second choice behind Star, but as it stands I'd just be ok with us taking him. He's just not the type of DT we need. But like I said, I'd still be fine if he were our pick, but I'd hope we spend a pick on a Montori Hughes or someone like that later. A big, low center of gravity, fire hydrant. Someone to plug the middle that can take on multiple blockers.

I'm still praying Star drops to us though. He's everything we need in a DT and more.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:07 AM

Like I said, I think he'll be a stud in the NFL. He's good at running down plays that go away from him since he's got the best motor I've ever seen in a DT, but if they run at him and put two blockers on him he'll get buried. He's just too light and too high of a center of gravity. If we already had a solid NT to put beside him he'd be my second choice behind Star, but as it stands I'd just be ok with us taking him. He's just not the type of DT we need. But like I said, I'd still be fine if he were our pick, but I'd hope we spend a pick on a Montori Hughes or someone like that later. A big, low center of gravity, fire hydrant. Someone to plug the middle that can take on multiple blockers.

I'm still praying Star drops to us though. He's everything we need in a DT and more.



I love Star to but I would be happy with Richardson as well. He so versatile and if he is taking up 2 blockers we win regardless. Because that mean Luck isn't dealing with a guard and they are going 1-1 with CJ and Hardy.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:36 AM

We didn't meet with Barron last year but if he would have drop to us he was going to be the pick.


Thank goodness we dodged that bullet, he was AWFUL in coverage.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 01:48 AM

pretty much all mock drafts are either lazy or complete fantasies at this point. the draftnik world runs totally outside of reality, as far as the people who actually make the decisions are concerned.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:37 AM

I don't think so. I also still think it would be a good pick for us. He's a really good pass rusher, and he's really pretty solid against the run, too. Dwan Edwards is hardly our long-term answer at his position. Drafting a guy like Richardson may not be the fan favorite pick for 2013, but it would be a great pick for the future of the team.
Now, having said that, I am still hoping we go WR and Safety with our first two picks.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 07:46 AM

We didn't meet with Barron last year but if he would have drop to us he was going to be the pick.

So we were going to draft a safety with a higher pick last year and that safety was nearly as good a prospect as 2 in this draft and we're not going to get one a year later with our secondary dying for a leader? Ok.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:12 AM

Sports writers aren't held accountable for being wrong so why not be lazy?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:47 AM

It's the same thing as when Mel Kiper kept mocking a TE to us year after year. When you don't have a stud at every position, immediately mock drafters slot a guy in there early because of a perceived want and "need."

I personally don't like that many mock drafters are selecting Richardson for the Panthers, but I do think there is a much better chance of selecting Richardson this year than there was of selecting Fletcher Cox last year.

I honestly think if you look at tendencies, you kind of have to mock a safety or wideout to the Panthers in Round 1. It just makes more sense, unless Star or Floyd are there (I highly doubt it). So, yes, it is lazy mock drafting.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:50 AM

I agree with OP. Lazy is exactly right. I doubt they take another three technique defensive tackle unless he is far and away the best player available. The mock drafters have Richardson there because they think he's a combination of BPA and a need, but in reality the need is at the other tackle spot, where Ron Edwards will have to be replaced. So Richardson would have to be the obvious BPA, and BPA only goes so far. For example, if BPA at 14 was Geno Smith or Eddie Lacy, that thinking would go right out the window.

If Star's there, I'd be thrilled for them to take him. I'm not in the business of advocating who they shouldn't take anymore, as I was disappointed when they grabbed Uncle Luke last year, which was shortsighted of me. If they DO take Richardson, I'll be convinced Ron and DG have their reasons. But I think if Star is gone they'll go best available WR, CB, S, or OL, with an eye on safety or DT in round 2 if not taken at 14.


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