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2013 NFL Draft Individual Grades:

14. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah: A Grade

I think Sharrif Floyd would have been a better pick because A) he's a superior pass-rusher and B) he doesn't have any sort of health concerns. But this is still a great pick for the Panthers because they needed tons of help on the interior of their defensive line. Star Lotulelei would have gone in the top 10 if smarter teams were drafting there, so Carolina is reaping the benefits, much like other smarter teams will in the second half of the draft.

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44. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue: B+ Grade

Back-to-back defensive tackles for the Panthers? Well, it makes sense considering how terrible they were at the position. Short's range was around 28-45, so there is pretty solid value with this selection. The only concern I have here is that the Panthers don't pick again until Round 4, and they have yet to address their woeful secondary.

108. Edmund Kugbila, G, Valdosta State: C Grade

This is a reach, as Edmund Kugbila was widely viewed as a sixth- or a seventh-round prospect. The Panthers needed some competition at the guard position, so maybe Kugbila can eventually claim a starting job.

148. A.J. Klein, ILB, Iowa State: B Grade

I thought A.J. Klein would be a fourth-rounder, so this is a nice value selection. Klein won't project as a starter, but he'll provide depth for a Carolina team that wasn't very deep at linebacker.

182. Kenjon Barner, RB, Oregon: B Grade

DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart are both immensely overpaid, so one of them will have to go soon. Once that happens, Kenjon Barner will be a nice change-of-pace back. No surprise that he went around the sixth frame.

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The same guy gave the Raiders an F, and the Raiders actually had a nice draft this year. Guy doesn't know what he is talking about.

Yea the Raiders had a very good Draft. Really confused on that one....

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It is Kansas City

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What health concerns does Star have?

Serious question. If the cardiac was misdiagnosis then what else is there?

Also, if Floyd was so much better why did he continue to slide?

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B

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My biggest issue with this draft is that they failed to address the secondary, either to find Chris Gamble’s replacement or at least add depth, as well as failing to add a potential stud receiver.

Granted, they have about 10 receivers on the roster right now, unfortunately only two of them are above average. Ted Ginn is a return man, Domenik Hixon can’t stay healthy, David Gettis and Armanti Edwards are just stop gap players, and the rest will be lucky to be with the team for more than one more season.

Still, the Panthers are showing that they are committed to a shut down rush defense........

http://nflsoup.com/2013-nfl-draft-grades-carolina-panthers/

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B-

Carolina Panthers: The Panthers wasted no time in taking care of their greatest hole at defensive tackle, and did it twice. They can plug in Utah's Star Lotulelei and Purdue's Kawann Short as complementary impact players inside to help free up 2012 first-round linebacker Luke Kuechly—the reigning rookie of the year—to have a bigger second season inside. With only three other picks, however, they didn't get the extra receiver they could have used.

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Those last two are pretty accurate, imo

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who's this idiot

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panthers get a C.

why take a LB and RB when that is one of the deepest spots on your roster, left lots of weapons that the QB could use and secondary players on the board.

the first 3 picks where great, last 2 hurt the grade. user_offline.gifquote.gif

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panthers get a C.

why take a LB and RB when that is one of the deepest spots on your roster, left lots of weapons that the QB could use and secondary players on the board.

the first 3 picks where great, last 2 hurt the grade. If you think the first 3 picks were great, yet you somehow only give the draft a C, you need to change your grading system.

If the Bears had drafted Arthur Brown in the first and Kyle Long in the second, I would have given their draft an A. So it's hard for me to give them a terribly bad grade for getting Long and passing on Brown for another linebacker when pretty much every other team did the same. And I thought their day 3 was awesome. B-/C+ area.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56593

remember you better not fudge that 6th round pick because that tarnishes your entire draft according to dacitykats

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Carolina Panthers

Like the Falcons, the Panthers identified their biggest area of concern and addressed it. The Panthers erased their biggest need with a "Star" who fell into their lap. Like Luke Kuechly a year ago, Lotulelei will prove an immediate difference-maker. His power could be complemented perfectly by the quickness from Kawann Short, a natural playmaker who fell to the second round only because of questons about his motor. Surrounded by this much talent, however, he could prove more productive than Lotulelei. The Panthers added intriguing talent with their other three picks. Linebacker A.J. Klein, like Short, was an absolute playmaker at Iowa State as was Oregon running back Kenjon Barner, whose first crack at playing time might come as a returner. Guard Edmund Kugbila could surprise, as he possesses intriguing tools. Grade: B

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/blog/rob-rang/22159924/2013-nfl-draft-nfc-south-grades

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curious as to what Peter King says. oh my bad smoots. you said experts.

I still want to read what crap he has to say about us tomorrow.

Also, Marc James from WFNZ tweeted out earlier that Kiper gave us the second lowest grade.

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Kiper gave Panthers a C+

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Draft grades at this point rarely makes sense. The problem is that there are two objects to the draft, one is of course player evaluation, the other is really the game of the draft. Sadly a lot of so called expert have no idea about this.

If you trade down to pick up an extra second so you can plug three holes in the first two (think Beason, Kalil and Jerret) you have played a great draft as long as you did not pick any of the players to early.

If you pick a guy named Brady in the 2nd you played the game terrible (as he would have been available in the 5th, the fact that he from a player evaluation stand point would have been a great first overall pick is not considered here, as there is no way to know).

The fact the Jerret stuck so bad I do not even remember how to spell his name, grated I am a terrible speller, is in the player evaluation part of the draft as well and impossible to tell at the moment all the expert was A+ing us for that draft (grated two pro-bowlers from one draft is at least an A).

My grade of how Gettleman played the draft. I say a solid B, 4 out of 5 projected earlier than picked, one reach. One major hole plugged. Not great, no trade down to get extra picks and still pick up the players wanted, but no trading next years first for a 2nd either. Like I said a solid B

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