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Chomsky: Obama’s ‘attack’ on civil liberties ‘goes well beyond anything’ imagined

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:15 PM


Popular liberal thinker Noam Chomsky on Friday slammed President Obama for his inexplicable “attack” on civil liberties.

“I personally never expected anything of Obama and wrote about it before the 2008 primaries. I thought it was smoke and mirrors,” Mr. Chomsky said during an interview on AlterNet with blogger Mike Stivers. “The one thing that did surprise me is his attack on civil liberties. They go well beyond anything I would have anticipated, and they don’t seem easy to explain.”

Mr. Chomsky cited the Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project court case, in which the U.S. Supreme Court upheld a law that calls for up to 15 years in prison for those people convicted of providing “material support” to “foreign terrorist organizations.”

“That’s an Obama initiative, and it’s a very serious attack on civil liberties. He doesn’t gain anything from it — he doesn’t get any political mileage out of it. In fact, most people don’t even know about it,” Mr. Chomsky continued. “Say, you meet with someone in a terrorist group and advise them to turn to nonviolent means, then that’s material assistance to terrorism. I’ve met with people who are on the list and will continue to do so, and Obama wants to criminalize that, which is a plain attack on freedom of speech. I just don’t understand why he’s doing it.”

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Well huddle dems, lets hear it.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:34 PM

many democratics don't really agree with chomsky consistently and it's misleading to call him a liberal


also he's boring. i don't dispute much of what he says in general, and i'm right there with him on obama, but reading his stuff is like reading the instruction manual to a microwave


on a related note, here's a book that this article reminded me of: http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/1849351104


it's not unheard of for obama to be criticized from the left and in actuality many more of those criticisms are grounded in reality

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 03:34 PM

Giving advice = Material support?


Edit well damn I guess it does (as defined by the act)

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:01 PM

Individual Civil Liberties are coming under ever increasing pressure as the ability to gather and process information on citizens rapidly expands.  Criticism of President Obama may very well be justified, but as an observer of human nature, I seriously doubt there are very many "servants of the people" at any level of government demanding less information to help make their decisions on public security issues.  Law enforcement agencies at all levels are in full 24/7/365 CYA mode since 9/11 and the politicians (as if it needed to be said) are right there with them.  I am not happy about this reality, as the end game is obvious, but the American Public and politicians are quick to point fingers when things go wrong and no one in a position of authority wants to be accused of being soft on crime/terrorism.  Tithe to the ACLU to fight this trend or prepare for your rights to be infringed upon.  http://www.aclu.org/...al-surveillance

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 04:53 PM

When we have a Republican President, Chomsky is "anti-American." When we have a Democrat President, his thoughts are finally allowed to be discussed in the Tinderbox.


(i realize CoW isn't an example of republican things it's just funny)

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 06:34 PM

the reason he's quoted in times like these is that he almost makes sense in what he says unlike all the crap G5 and stirs try to add from their kooky right wing friends.


All of us wish Obama would have a better record on this stuff but government change is insanely slow. And of course the political CYA thing is paramount, if Obama releases people from Gitmo and one of them bombs an Army camp in Afghanistan, it's Obama's fault, even though his observations of the negative repercussions of Gitmo are dead on.


So instead, we get 5 bombings from people that hate us for having Gitmo, but hey they are just evil terrorists.

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