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Best Answer rayzor, 02 May 2013 - 01:01 PM

Thats my point, usually after the draft is when scouts get let go.

 

unless they did a good enough job.

 

i think the problem for years has been the GM and not necessarily the scouting dept.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:38 PM

Nothing like the Huddle wanting to fire/cut every single player/coach/front office member.  Thank god the Panthers aren't run by Huddlers. 

 

Also add a statue of every decent player to step onto the field and every retired player to become a coach.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:40 PM

He came in during the middle of the scouting season.  It would have been pretty dumb to cut them loose and then ask new people to pick it up halfway through the process.

 

Now that the draft is over (and with it, the scouting process) I suspect he may make a few moves between now and the fall.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:57 PM

He came in during the middle of the scouting season.  It would have been pretty dumb to cut them loose and then ask new people to pick it up halfway through the process.

 

Now that the draft is over (and with it, the scouting process) I suspect he may make a few moves between now and the fall.

 

 

Thats my point, usually after the draft is when scouts get let go.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 12:59 PM

All of the scouts are probably on vacay at fire island for two weeks. The axe will probably fall when they get back.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 01:00 PM

I kinda thought that too, initially, but there's a lot we're not privy to that Gettleman (and Accorsi when he was consulting) would have been able to see.  Like the scouting information that was provided to Hurney before picks were made.  

 

What I take from this is an indictment on what was done with the information given vs an indictment on the information itself.  Or it could simply be that he believes there is talent in the scouting department that was badly mismanaged or misdirected from the top and doesn't see the need to replace the staff when maybe he can just point them in a better direction.

 

i think it's what i bolded. two things that i noticed when talking about the scouting dept. and making decisions is that he wanted to give them better tools and he emphasized often about listening which leads me to believe that wasn't something that there was a lot of when hurney was here. i also remember something said about being a macro-manager instead of a micro-manager which also leads me to believe that hurney was more of a micro-manager, which isn't really the best use of other people's talents.

 

the scouts may have been good and knowledgable, but when the boss man disregards your opinion consistently then your skills are wasted and effectiveness is limited.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 01:01 PM   Best Answer

Thats my point, usually after the draft is when scouts get let go.

 

unless they did a good enough job.

 

i think the problem for years has been the GM and not necessarily the scouting dept.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 01:44 PM

I think its pretty wrong to call for the jobs of people you have no idea about. That is their livelihood.

 



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:19 PM

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the scouts may have been good and knowledgable, but when the boss man disregards your opinion consistently then your skills are wasted and effectiveness is limited.

To add to that, when your boss man disregards your opinion consistently then it is also easy to get a case of the "fug its" and not work to your potential.  If the old regime did not listen to their staff's input and opinions as suggested, Gettleman being more of a communicator has probably been a breath of fresh air and reinvigorated some of our staff that may have grown complacent.



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Posted 02 May 2013 - 02:26 PM

aside from gregory it is a new one...relatively new anyway. after the 2011 draft pretty much everyone got canned and what you saw in the 2012 draft was the result of the new crew.

gettleman seemed to think that what we had was good enough and all the current guys needed was training and tools.


Just curious where did you hear that we hired a new scouting crew?

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 03:02 PM

Just curious where did you hear that we hired a new scouting crew?

 

the last i heard about it was mid season last year in a radio interview with hurney (before he was fired, of course).

 

it was kind of a passing statement but it was one that i don't remember being talked about much. i kind of remember seeing even an article or two about it when it happened as well.

 

i think both times it was discussed a little in here.

 

if i had the energy i'd try to find it.
 





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