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nakamura not in the mix...florence a favorite?

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BPA is cloudy...I think grabbing short was more if a precaution to ensure our DT spot improved. Draft one DT and you hope you improved but the bust rate is high....2 increases your odds you just gained talent to trend upwards.

4. We had the best pass rush last year....and QBs completed a higher percentage against is than any team. So talent simply has to improve

 

I believe that Gettleman saw development in the young guys on our roster last season.  I expect we will go into camp with what we have and let the true evaluation occur then.  If he is happy with what he sees with the young guys development, we will go into the season with them.  He could very easily add a vet guy i fhe does not like what he sees.

 

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I said I mistaked Campbell for Moore.

And never say never. It will when it Happen. You can have a safety that plays like a nickle. Texas utilize Vaccaro that way at Texas. Don't be surprise if the Saints uses him that same way with Harper and Jenkins deep back.

 

yeah, you can have CB, S, LB...crap, you could even drop a DE back into coverage and call him the nickel. it's just a extra person you drop back into coverage to give you 5 in coverage rather than 4 to cover additional receivers.

 

we've used LBs quite a bit over the years in nickel packages and we aren't rare in that.

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I believe that Gettleman saw development in the young guys on our roster last season.  I expect we will go into camp with what we have and let the true evaluation occur then.  If he is happy with what he sees with the young guys development, we will go into the season with them.  He could very easily add a vet guy i fhe does not like what he sees.

i'm presuming you mean mini camp, etc. we should see enough to know well before TC if we need more brought in.

 

in fact that should be the case with all positions. we should have everything worked out except maybe depth positions on the roster by training camp.

 

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yeah, you can have CB, S, LB...crap, you could even drop a DE back into coverage and call him the nickel. it's just a extra person you drop back into coverage to give you 5 in coverage rather than 4 to cover additional receivers.

 

we've used LBs quite a bit over the years in nickel packages and we aren't rare in that.

 

 

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I hate to bring this back up, but I'm sure I'll remember several times throughout the season how we passed on Jamar Taylor and DJ Swearinger in the second.  Both could have been instant difference-makers in our secondary.  

 

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Here is the bottom line.

1. With the cap hell that Hurney left, we were and still are very limited with what could happen in FA

2. Without a 3rd round pick, the first two picks were really the only place we were going to draft someone better than the young guys we currently have in the seconday....another 5th-6th round guy would not upgrade what we have.

3. With the way that the draft fell, Star and KK were absolutely the BPA and fit a HUGE need

4. A nasty pass rush will help our secondary significantly more than adding another late round guy to the mix

I for one am waiting to see how this unit performs on the field before making any judgements.

Thank you. Someone gets it.

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I expect that both of the Josh's end up starting. Which I think was the teams plan from the start, Florence was brought in to provide them with some veteran leadership and competition. 

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Their opponents had a 56 completion %, 3100 yards, 16 TDs, and 24 INTs. Pretty sure you're confusing the years.

 

They also were 2nd in sacks that year. The following season they were tied with four other teams at 27th with 29. So somewhere between 27th and 30th was where their pass rush ranked that year.

 

 

 

But herp derp Charles Woodson!

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I hate to bring this back up, but I'm sure I'll remember several times throughout the season how we passed on Jamar Taylor and DJ Swearinger in the second.  Both could have been instant difference-makers in our secondary.  

same with short, in fact the difference he can make long term is probably going to be bigger than what either one of those guys would be making.

 

getting to the passer quickly effects the secondary in better ways than picking up one coverage guy...and that's exactly what short does, get to the passer. within a year i think he'll be better than  dwan was last year. having a rotation of dwan and short is going to do wonders to the pass D, esp. when you consider that they are going to be working beside star who will be eating up 2 or 3 blockers on most downs. it just opens things up for all of our pass rushers...CJ, hardy, alexander, dwan, and short...and it shuts down or limits options for QBs helping out the coverage guys.

 

QBs are going to have to get rid of the ball quickly, and i mean within 2-3 seconds on every down. i think it will be easier to press them at the line because QBs won't have time to let deep plays develop.

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I believe that Gettleman saw development in the young guys on our roster last season. I expect we will go into camp with what we have and let the true evaluation occur then. If he is happy with what he sees with the young guys development, we will go into the season with them. He could very easily add a vet guy i fhe does not like what he sees.

Maybe...he also had too many areas to address...so he had no choice to ignore some needs he would have liked to address.

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