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Five NFC teams that failed to fill needs (ATL & CAR included)


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Carolina Panthers, wide receiver

Steve Smith's revival alongside quarterback Cam Newton is well-documented. But Smith turns 34 this month and Carolina has little depth at the wide receiver position beyond Brandon LaFell, an underwhelming target who makes better sense as a third option. The recently signed Ted Ginn and Domenik Hixon are patches. With a rare talent like Newton running the show, the Panthers' failure to surround him with more dynamic pass-catchers is baffling.

 

Atlanta Falcons, pass rusher

The Falcons did fine work upgrading their secondary by adding cornerbacks Desmond Trufant and Robert Alford in the first two rounds. But general manager Thomas Dimitroff failed to land a premier pass rusher. Fourth-rounder Malliciah Goodman is a long-armed defensive end out of Clemson, but he's little more than a rotational player out of the gate. Atlanta will struggle to put heat on quarterbacks unless 31-year-old Osi Umenyiora catches on fire.

 

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000166321/article/2013-nfl-draft-five-nfc-teams-that-failed-to-fill-needs

 

Is Smith the oldest #1 WR in the NFL? Man, I love him, but I seriously hope there is a real talent for us to take at WR in the first round of the 2014 Draft.

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Next year, it has to be one of the first two picks. OT is another need.

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apparently, we can magically poo out cap space to sign all of the high priced free agents available. what fools we are!

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Yeah we totally didn't fill a need at Defensive Tackle.

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We'll probably double dip on WR next year. I wouldn't mind.

Jordan Matthews and Mike Evans or Brandon Coleman.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000166321/article/2013-nfl-draft-five-nfc-teams-that-failed-to-fill-needs

 

Is Smith the oldest #1 WR in the NFL? Man, I love him, but I seriously hope there is a real talent for us to take at WR in the first round of the 2014 Draft.

 

How old is Reggie Wayne?  He's right up there with Smitty in age.  Andre Johnson is up there too.  Can't think of any others who might be close.  Fitz is just behind them, think he's like 30-31ish.

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Randy Moss says hi. Had over 4000 yards before Smitty ever returned that kickoff against Minnesota.

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Randy Moss says hi. Had over 4000 yards before Smitty ever returned that kickoff against Minnesota.

 

But Randy Moss is not a #1 WR.

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Reggie Wayne is 34, Wes Welker is 32,  Andre Johnson is 31, Roddy White is 31 and Fitzgerald is 29.   Those are the older 1000 yard receivers in the NFL. 

 

Last time Moss went over 1000 yards was in 2009 when he was 33. 

 

 

 

Smitty is 34 and it's likely that he won't go over 1000 yards but one more time in his career. 

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I liked our #1 pick of Star but I was expecting a safety with our 2nd and just need it was a S with our 4th. We'll see how it all pans out.

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How old is Reggie Wayne? He's right up there with Smitty in age. Andre Johnson is up there too. Can't think of any others who might be close. Fitz is just behind them, think he's like 30-31ish.


Wayne and Smith came in together I believe....but the Colts have added recieving weapons

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Randy Moss says hi. Had over 4000 yards before Smitty ever returned that kickoff against Minnesota.


Says hi about what....he has been on 4 teams the last 3 years, only played 2 of the last 3, and most yardage in that window was 400 rec yardage.

What miss, Smitty, whoever did years ago means little to nothing. These guys are completely different players now

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on the other hand i'm glad to finally see somebody acknowledge that the falcons had nothing resembling a pass rush entering the draft and did little to help it.  most breakdowns of their draft i've read go "well the falcons lost some DBs so they drafted a bunch of cornerbacks and safeties B+"

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so here's the plan guys.....

 

1) we sit around and talk about how  tough smitty is and attack everyone who mentions the idea that he is getting older and could break down

 

2) we talk about the lack of respect that guys like lafell get  and talk about future possible studs like antonio bryant hoping that they are the next victor cruz

 

3) we don't draft anyone in the first round unless they are as good as aj green and megatron because it's dumb to not get a sure thing WR in the first. i mean it's ok if it's me other position, but WR they have to be megatron good, and no, it doesn't matter that you have a mid first round pick and guys that good only come around every 5 years or so and rarely make it much past the first 5 picks

 

4) wait until the next year to do something instead of try something now because now is never a good time

 

5) get more of everything else because everything else will help cam in the passing game more than a guy who actually catches the ball

 

6) championship

 

sound like a good plan?

 

me too.

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the WR talk baffles me....

 

Only draft WRs that are projected like AJ Green....the others are too big of a gamble.  Tons of #1 WRs come from the 2nd and 3rd rounds and didn't project like Green.  Many have projected like Green and stink.

 

We need talent.  Cam is entering his 3rd year and we have drafted no one....and added just Olsen.  Trying to pimp 1 yr bandaids or gimmick roleplayers as building around him is comical.

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so here's the plan guys.....

 

1) we sit around and talk about  tough smitty is and ck everyone who mentions the idea that he is getting older and could break down

 

2) we talk about the lack of respect that guys like lafell get  and talk about future possible studs like antonio bryant hoping that they are the next victor cruz

 

3) we don't draft anyone in the first round unless they are as good as aj green and megatron because it's dumb to not get a sure thing WR in the first. i mean it's ok if it's me other position, but WR they have to be megatron good, and no, it doesn't matter that you have a mid first round pick and guys that good only come around every 5 years or so and rarely make it much past the first 5 picks

 

4) wait until the next year to do something instead of try something now because now is never a good time

 

5) get more of everything else because everything else will help cam in the passing game more than a guy who actually catches the ball

 

6) championship

 

sound like a good plan?

 

me too.

 

 

 

 

Yep, people must not have heard of Hakeem Nicks, Roddy White, Vincent Jackson, ect. You can find great recievers in the late first round, second round, ect. 

 

I laughed when i saw people saying we couldn't get a good wide reciever by picking from the latter half of the first round.  I'm going to be shocked and very upset if we don't pick a WR in the first two rounds next year.

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Would rather be on this list than to have reached for a guy and pleased reports like this. Idiots, I can't wait till week 1

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the WR talk baffles me....

 

Only draft WRs that are projected like AJ Green....the others are too big of a gamble.  Tons of #1 WRs come from the 2nd and 3rd rounds and didn't project like Green.  Many have projected like Green and stink.

 

We need talent.  Cam is entering his 3rd year and we have drafted no one....and added just Olsen.  Trying to pimp 1 yr bandaids or gimmick roleplayers as building around him is comical.

 

and this has been my issue with this team and fanbase for a while. most teams build around there young QB (old QBs too) but the panthers. this team really cannot keep ignoring the position if it wants to be successful.
 

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They met with 10 or more WR before the draft who were available during this draft. I would think they saw/know/found out things that made them stay away. It's like you guys would rather have any WR no matter what over a more talented player at another position. Really, what good would it be drafting a WR who wouldn't win a starting job over the players on the roster now?
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We drafted 5 wr's in the previous 3 drafts, but yeah we totally should have taken a late round flyer on some guy in the middle of our draft board.

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Would rather be on this list than to have reached for a guy and pleased reports like this. Idiots, I can't wait till week 1

 

Yep. I still think the way the draft progressed a WR in the first two rounds was not BPA.

 

1st Round: Star - No wide receiver in this draft was better than Star as a football player. Some could argue Tavon, but he was already gone

 

2nd Round. Kawann- Now lets look at the list of WR who I think could challenge our selection in the second round.

 

--Justin Hunter (gone)

--Cordarrelle Patterson (gone)

--DeAndre Hopkins (gone)

 

Those are the only 3 recievers I would have wanted over the Kawann pick, arguably.

 

The rest of the WR class

 

--Keenan Allen, Terrence Williams, Quinton Patton, Robert Woods, Kenny Stills, Stedman Bailey, Ryan Swope.

 

I would like to hear from people why they would rather have taken any of these players in the 2nd over KK.  KK was viewed as the top Pass rushing DT from this draft, arguably.  After you get passed those top 4 recievers (Hunter, Austin, Patterson, Hopkins) would you rather pick one of the top Pass Rushing DT's in the draft or one of these WR left.

 

If we had a 3rd, I think we pull the trigger on one of these guys, but we didn't. After Keenan was gone in the 3rd, I knew we wouldn't be picking a WR in this draft.

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The homerism on this board is out of hand. Everything that article said is 100% true and what I've been preaching. We have a Lamborghini in cam newton and putting hubcaps on him

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The homerism on this board is out of hand. Everything that article said is 100% true and what I've been preaching. We have a Lamborghini in cam newton and putting hubcaps on him

 

Read above and try and answer my question. I'm just curious what you would have done in the same situation.

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I'm just waiting for the excuses next year.

 

there are no perfect options. there is no one guaranteed to take the starting gig over smitty or lafell or whoever so we just wait until the perfect one comes along and miraculously falls into our laps.

 

and never mind that we don't hold that standard to any other position. wr is the only position you have to absolutely get it perfect  and not waste a first or second unless they are  guaranteed to be as good as smitty.

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5) get more of everything else because everything else will help cam in the passing game more than a guy who actually catches the ball

 

 

 

What is interesting is I doubt there is a soul on the planet (besides Gettleman) who said to themselves:

 

"Now that we drafted Lotulelei, I really hope we get another DT in the second round."

 

Yet now everyone thinks it was a great pick.

 

Given that Star by himself gives us one of the best lines in the NFL and is described as an every-down tackle, there is no reason that we couldn't have picked Swearinger or taken a chance on a WR. Maybe the talent just wasn't there.

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