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Michael Kidd-Gilchrist The Right Pick?


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#31 Herbert The Love Bug

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:28 PM

He's an 18 year old kid with only 1 year college experience, no supporting cast, and being asked to guard Lebron. He will be one of the top players in the league in 5-6 years. All the top evaluators agree on that.



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 05:37 PM

Apples and oranges comparison.  Of course Barnes isn't scoring that much more with Golden State.  Look at the scorers on that roster.  Curry, Thompson, Lee and Jarrett Jack are scoring options that come before Barnes. When your 4th option is scoring 13 per 36, you're doing pretty well.


Playing with those guys also opens things up for Barnes. You get a lot more open looks when the defense has to worry about 3 point shooters and competent big men

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 06:00 PM

Apples and oranges comparison.  Of course Barnes isn't scoring that much more with Golden State.  Look at the scorers on that roster.  Curry, Thompson, Lee and Jarrett Jack are scoring options that come before Barnes. When your 4th option is scoring 13 per 36, you're doing pretty well.   

 

And nobody on the Bobcats could shoot 3's, allowing the defense to clog the middle so MKG couldn't drive. The Bobcats are also playing 4 on 5 on offense when Biz is out there. You can make arguments both ways. But thinking that Barnes is that much better (and has a brighter future) than MKG is absurd. Especially when there's a 2 year difference between the two and MKG has ZERO shot right now. You're also not considering the MASSIVE drop in production when MKG was fighting off those injuries.

 

But to compare "apples to apples"...

 

Head to head:

MKG- 14.5 pts (55%), 6.5 rebs, 2.5 asts, 1.0 blks, 1.0 stls, 2.5 fls, 1.5 turnovers

Barnes- 5.0 pts (14%), 3.0 rebs, 1.5 asts, 0.0 blks, 1.0 stls, 2.0 fls, 2.0 turnovers



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:16 PM

I feel like Barnes and Beal are better offensive players and better scoring options, but MKG is just the better all around player. 

 

Players Isolating on MKG shot 28.6% from the field.

Pick and Roll ball-handlers shot 39.5% from the field against MKG.

Players operating in the post shot 39% from the field against MKG.

 

All over those percentages rank much higher than Beal's or Barnes'. 

 

Also data shows that MKG is a much better rebounder, shot-blocker, and rim attacker than either Barnes or Beal.

 

I have zero doubt in my mind that, while Beal and Barnes will be good offensive weapons in the future... MKG will be the better all around player and will impact the game in more ways than Beal and Barnes. The only player that we could've drafted that would have more of an impact than MKG is Drummond (good bigs impact the game more than good guards/forwards generally), but that would've been considered a massive reach at the time. 



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 11:54 PM

Playing with those guys also opens things up for Barnes. You get a lot more open looks when the defense has to worry about 3 point shooters and competent big men


But how much does he touch the ball?

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 12:42 AM

But how much does he touch the ball?

 

His  usage % was 17.7. MKG's was 17.9.



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Posted 08 May 2013 - 12:19 PM

I wanted Harrison Barnes. Dude is probably going to end up being the best player from the draft in a few years. 

 

I'll be honest though, going to California was probably the best thing for him and his career. He would have had different expectations and would have been under a much different type of microscope in Charlotte. 



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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:47 PM

But how much does he touch the ball?

 

How much did MKG touch the ball? It wasn't like he was the 1st 2nd or 3rd option on this team.



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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:01 AM

Let's not forget having post up players hurts a player who has to score dirty points (Put backs, Fast breaks, driving to the basket).

 

Give this team David Lee and Bogut and see who scores more.




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