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^^^ whoa I don't want anything bad to happen to him but I'm kind of relieved we have some crazy fans.

I remember Delhomme got some death threats in the mail

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If it was Stewart of 2009, and DeAngelo of 2008/9, then Martin is not better than them. But DeAngelo and Stewart over the past few years haven't hit those highs, and while Martin has only been in the league one year, his numbers were very impressive - over 1,400 rushing yards with 11 TDs, and almost 500 receiving yards as well.

I don't dispute that our guys are very talented, and when healthy and in form are excellent starters in the NFL. But the problem is neither guy has been utilized to a level worthy of their current contracts.

As a unit I agree that they are very good unit. But at this time if you said Martin vs DeAngelo, or Martin vs. Stewart, I see only one winner in both contests, that being the rookie Doug Martin. He may flop next year, but personally Martin looks to be the new star running back on the block. And our two guys need to start performing to a higher level because as it stands they aren't worth the money the team has been paying them.

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Hey well the plus is we're front and center on NFL.com

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Ding! Ding! Ding!

Martin rushing for 1,400 yards doesn't make him superior over Stewart, Williams and Tolbert, especially with Chud fugging them. Tolbert, himself, made 6 TDs in two games. Employ them correctly, and they're the most fearsome RB stable in the NFL.

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I think the combo of DWill, Stew, and Tolbert is stronger than Nartin. Throw in Cam's rushing, and our running game is much stronger.

I did say in my post as a unit with Cam we are stronger, yes. But my point when you compare our running backs to their running backs, in my opinion, Doug Martin is a better performing running back on his own than our combined unit of DeAngelo, Stewart and Tolbert.

Last season DeAngelo put up 737 and 5 TDs; Stewart put up 336 and 1 TD; 183 yards and 7 TDs.

As a running back unit they put up a total of: 1256 yards, and 13 TDs.

Last season Doug Martin put up 1454 yards and 11 TDs on his own. LeGarrette Blount put up 151 and 2 TDs.

As a running back unit they put up a total of: 1505 yards and 13 TDs.

So when you compare our very well paid running back unit, they produced less yards than the Bucs, and the TDs were tied. So while I'd love to say that our unit is stronger than Martin, if that kid continues to push on, and ours continue to perform as they do, then he will easily surpass them. For me, if I was asked would I rather have Cam+DeAngelo and Stewart (I count Tolbert as a FB), or Cam+Doug Martin, I would take the latter.

Now I like our running game, but it is hard to argue that DeAngelo and Stewart have performed since getting their contracts. Blame Cam's introduction, and our OC, but neither guy's form has been amazing. If they continue in that vain we may end up looking for another starting running back in the near future because their production for their contracts isn't really acceptable.

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Doug Martin is better than J-Stew, D-Will and Tolbert after ONE season? Holy crap, not a chance in hell.

As a RB, he is better than Tolbert and a 30 yr old version of Williams. Better than hurt Stewart as well

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That moment when we are one of the four worst nfc teams.

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As a RB, he is better than Tolbert and a 30 yr old version of Williams. Better than hurt Stewart as well

A hurt Stewart? You mean the same one that has only missed nine career games? Talk about hyperbole.

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