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#31 PantherFeez

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 06:58 PM

Last year we carried 4 CB's and 5 Safeties. I'd be interested to know who you think will make the 9 DB cut? (note: Naka has a 2014 void if he's on the roster this year)

 

Corners: J. Thomas, J. Norman, C. Munnerlyn, D. Florence, D.J. Moore, J. Dockery, M. White

 

Safeties: C. Godfrey, H. Naka, M. Mitchell, C. Jones, D.J. Campbell, R. Lester, A. Russell, N. Hixon

 

Bonus: Who do we end up stashing away to the practice squad?



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:43 PM

cut one of the safeties or moore / dockery. 

 

i want to keep our young guys (norman, thomas, white)



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:50 PM

Cut Naka, Jones, Russell, Hixon, Dockery and Moore.

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:08 PM

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#35 TheMaulClaw

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:20 PM

Yeah Naka needs to go.   I don't think Lester makes the 53, but I do like him on the practice squad.   Problem we might have though, since he was a rapid fire UDFA, we may not be able to sneak him there.   Not sure what we do in that situation.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:52 AM

Yeah Naka needs to go.   I don't think Lester makes the 53, but I do like him on the practice squad.   Problem we might have though, since he was a rapid fire UDFA, we may not be able to sneak him there.   Not sure what we do in that situation.

 

I tend to agree on Lester. The second someone is in need of a SS, I think they will be picking Lester up.



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:00 PM

I think Thomas was a diamond in the ruff.I think he will continue to get better.I am more worried about the other Josh



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

Last year we carried 4 CB's and 5 Safeties. I'd be interested to know who you think will make the 9 DB cut? (note: Naka has a 2014 void if he's on the roster this year)

 

Corners: J. Thomas, J. Norman, C. Munnerlyn, D. Florence, D.J. Moore, J. Dockery, M. White

 

Safeties: C. Godfrey, H. Naka, M. Mitchell, C. Jones, D.J. Campbell, R. Lester, A. Russell, N. Hixon

 

Bonus: Who do we end up stashing away to the practice squad?

Good question.  Most of the answers fail to take special teams into consideration, however, as well as contract status.

 

I really do not know all of the PS requirements, but I will go forward ignorantly for the sake of learning and discussion:

 

FS:  Godfrey, Jones (I know several of you like CB Melvin White, but I am guessing he becomes a FS--on the PS for now)

SS: Lester, M.Mitchell (Campbell to PS if eligible---I think Lester could be the day 1 starter, which is why he chose the Panthers)

CB: Thomas, Norman, Florence, Munnerlyn, Moore

 

CUT: Nakamura (Jones is a better special teamer), Dockery (hard to cut a tall, young CB), Hixon, Russell.

 

Practice Squad:  Melvin White, FS/CB; DJ Campbell, SS (if elibigible)

 

Key Battles: 

  • Jones vs. Nakamura (if Nakamura is not starting, the best special teamer gets the backup FS job)
  • Mitchell vs. Campbell (based on the fact that I think Lester is better than both, this is for the backup role)
  • I think any combination of the CBs could form the starting tandem. 


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:49 PM

 

Good question.  Most of the answers fail to take special teams into consideration, however, as well as contract status.

 

I really do not know all of the PS requirements, but I will go forward ignorantly for the sake of learning and discussion:

 

FS:  Godfrey, Jones (I know several of you like CB Melvin White, but I am guessing he becomes a FS--on the PS for now)

SS: Lester, M.Mitchell (Campbell to PS if eligible---I think Lester could be the day 1 starter, which is why he chose the Panthers)

CB: Thomas, Norman, Florence, Munnerlyn, Moore

 

CUT: Nakamura (Jones is a better special teamer), Dockery (hard to cut a tall, young CB), Hixon, Russell.

 

Practice Squad:  Melvin White, FS/CB; DJ Campbell, SS (if elibigible)

 

Key Battles: 

  • Jones vs. Nakamura (if Nakamura is not starting, the best special teamer gets the backup FS job)
  • Mitchell vs. Campbell (based on the fact that I think Lester is better than both, this is for the backup role)
  • I think any combination of the CBs could form the starting tandem. 

 

 

I want to move on from Naka, but i'm just confused that if we were going to cut him.. why did we restructure his contract and give him $65k more in bonus and a $35k workout bonus?

 

Naka's cap hit is $1.1Mil but $731k ($666k before restructure) of it would count against the cap if he's cut. That's chump change on the increase (I know) but why would you add on ANY dead money to a contract if you didn't want to keep him around?

 

Just my .02



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:52 PM

He's an incredibly physical player with good instincts, but it's too early to know anything for sure... when you start getting more snaps teams start to identify your weaknesses and exploit them. 



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:06 PM

He has special teams value.  We are a bit hard on him because his screw ups were huge, but the problems that Matty Ice exposed were technique.  NEVER face an incoming pass and backpeddle. High Schoolers know better. However, his deal was to reduce the ridiculous amount Marty gave him.



#42 PantherFeez

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:21 PM

So Jones over Naka? I'm just throwing it out there that I think Naka makes the team. The cut savings is almost 0 (715k sal vs 731k dead$). If you take Naka over Jones then there's suddenly 555k savings w/ no bonuses tied up



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Posted 17 May 2013 - 04:28 PM

While most seem to think we have a thin secondary, i feel we have a lot of talent there. It is young talent, but that doesn't make it bad talent.
With the front seven we're putting on the field, it's going to allow our young talent to start and not get abused as many think they will.
I think it's pretty exciting that we'll be watching our young, talented secondary grow, behind the front seven that we'll be harassing opposing offenses with.


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