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#1 Kurb


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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:31 AM




For the NSA, overflowing with tens of billions of dollars in post-9/11 budget awards, the cryptanalysis breakthrough came at a time of explosive growth, in size as well as in power. Established as an arm of the Department of Defense following Pearl Harbor, with the primary purpose of preventing another surprise assault, the NSA suffered a series of humiliations in the post-Cold War years. Caught offguard by an escalating series of terrorist attacks—the first World Trade Center bombing, the blowing up of US embassies in East Africa, the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen, and finally the devastation of 9/11—some began questioning the agency’s very reason for being. In response, the NSA has quietly been reborn. And while there is little indication that its actual effectiveness has improved—after all, despite numerous pieces of evidence and intelligence-gathering opportunities, it missed the near-disastrous attempted attacks by the underwear bomber on a flight to Detroit in 2009 and by the car bomber inTimes Square in 2010—there is no doubt that it has transformed itself into the largest, most covert, and potentially most intrusive intelligence agency ever created.

In the process—and for the first time since Watergate and the other scandals of the Nixon administration—the NSA has turned its surveillance apparatus on the US and its citizens. It has established listening posts throughout the nation to collect and sift through billions of email messages and phone calls, whether they originate within the country or overseas. It has created a supercomputer of almost unimaginable speed to look for patterns and unscramble codes. Finally, the agency has begun building a place to store all the trillions of words and thoughts and whispers captured in its electronic net. And, of course, it’s all being done in secret. To those on the inside, the old adage that NSA stands for Never Say Anything applies more than ever.



#2 Jase


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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:37 AM

Let's test it out.


Who wants to be the guinea pig that nonchalantly mentions on the huddle that they're going to blow up a government building?




-Whoops, looks like it's me.

-Who could be ringing my doorbell at 10:30 AM?

#3 Darth Biscuit

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:42 AM

This is where Skynet will gain sentience and become our overlord.

#4 Kurb


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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:46 AM


2:00 mark

#5 Happy Panther

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:54 AM

Clear consititutional violation right?


This is pretty crazy too:




Apparently, Tim Clemente, a former FBI counterterrorism agent, did not get the memo when he appeared May 1 on CNN’s Out Front with Erin Burnett. She wanted to know if the government could listen in, after the fact, to telephone conversations between Katherine Russell, widow of the deceased Boston terrorist bombing suspect, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, and her late husband.
Clemente’s response was, to say the least, shocking: “[T]here is a way. We certainly have ways in national security investigations to find out exactly what was said in that conversation.”
Burnett could not believe what she was hearing, and commented, “So they can actually get that? People are saying, look, that is incredible.”
Clemente replied, “No, welcome to America. All of that stuff is being captured as we speak whether we know it or like it or not.”



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 10:41 AM

There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.



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Posted 20 May 2013 - 11:04 AM

Battlestar gallactica. Couldn't be more true. fug the NSA. They can blow me.

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:38 PM

How would you like to be the guy that has to sort intel from porn?

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 09:04 PM

Tracking everything is physically impossible.  If I send a message to my buddy down the street and he uses a mail switch/server located in a data center in NC, it the traffic might not even leave NC.  Or it might travel halfway around the world, its impossible to tell. 



And the only way they could monitor the private email of a US citizen is if the companies that own the email servers, or the routers and switches that make up the internet are willing to work with them.  Which would mean that a number of uncleared people would know what the NSA was doing.  And the NSA doesn't allow uncleared people to know what they are doing.


What they probably are doing is using this data center to store conversations between international destinations, or perhaps between a domestic/international location.  Those conversations would have to use certain thresholds.  For example, if a conversation between someone in New York and someone in Yemen used the code word "Jihad",  it would automatically be looked at and perhaps stored if someone decides it might be worth storing. 


And if the place is indeed a data center its only improving the ability to do what they are already doing.