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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:11 PM

Len has potential and showed flashes...but I want no part of him.  Too soft and no nasty streak IMO.  If I'm drafting a project, I at least want to see effort and demanding the ball...not shying away while his teammates bomb 3's.

 



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:17 PM

Len has potential and showed flashes...but I want no part of him.  Too soft and no nasty streak IMO.  If I'm drafting a project, I at least want to see effort and demanding the ball...not shying away while his teammates bomb 3's.

 

Why do you think Len is soft?  I never saw him dominated by another big guy.  I remember Plumlee had a couple good games against UM, but considering they beat Duke twice I dont know how big a deal that was

 

Passive on offense I could see, but I've never seen him look soft on D



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 01:27 PM

Why do you think Len is soft?  I never saw him dominated by another big guy.  I remember Plumlee had a couple good games against UM, but considering they beat Duke twice I dont know how big a deal that was

 

Passive on offense I could see, but I've never seen him look soft on D

 

Should've said that more clearly, meant on offense mainly.  And most of that comes from him not demanding the ball or being timid in the poo offense Maryland ran. 

 

Little snippet from a scouting report that I agree with...

 

"Len often appears calm and collected on the court, perhaps to a fault, as his toughness and passion for the game are often among the main questions raised about him. His passivity was well-publicized during his freshman season, when he struggled to adapt to a new way of life in the United States. By his sophomore season, Len had mastered English and appeared far more comfortable with his teammates and reporters in the locker room. His on-court demeanor didn't change much, but he frequently flashed some fire, pumping his fists and shouting into the crowd on occasions when he or one of his teammates made a big play. As for his toughness, Len doesn't really seek out contact on either end of the floor, but he doesn't back down from it either. He also rarely looks to the officials for help on the offensive end, where's he undoubtedly a finesse player, more interested in using his quickness and length to score rather than banging down low."

 

The part I highlighted very well may have been the main reason, and he did improve this last season. I just don't get that excited about him as a prospect.  His demeanor almost reminds me of Darko Milicic or something. Too many foreign busts for every Gasol or Dirk out there to use another high draft pick on a project when Biz is already on the roster.  Biz and Len on the court at the same time could be great in a few years...but the percentages lean more towards it being a train wreck. 



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:32 PM

Kemba 

Wiggins

MKG

Bennett

FA

 

 

yourrrr charlottttte hornets!



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:44 PM

[quote name="Crim" post="2245155" timestamp="1369859529"]

Kemba
Wiggins
MKG
Bennett
FA


I'd rather have randle

Kemba
Oladipo/Henderson
Mkg
Randle
FA/ biz

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 03:57 PM

I don't know if I'd rather have Randle than Wiggins. But I'd definitely rather have Oladipo and Randle over Wiggins and Bennett.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:35 PM

I don't know if I'd rather have Randle than Wiggins. But I'd definitely rather have Oladipo and Randle over Wiggins and Bennett.

 

No, no, no!!!

 

Wiggins + Bennett >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oladipo + Randle

 

Wiggins is a lot better than Oladipo.

Bennett and Randle are very similar.

We'd be a top 10 team if we landed both Wiggins and Bennett to Kemba, MKG, and Biz.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:37 PM

Victor Oladipo
 

 

 

Surprise there is no "Bennett Bandwagon" thread, so posting this on here:

 

 

 



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:38 PM

[quote name="Crim" post="2245155" timestamp="1369859529"]

Kemba
Wiggins
MKG
Bennett
FA


I'd rather have randle

Kemba
Oladipo/Henderson
Mkg
Randle
FA/ biz

 

Disagree.

 



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Posted 30 May 2013 - 12:37 AM

Should've said that more clearly, meant on offense mainly.  And most of that comes from him not demanding the ball or being timid in the poo offense Maryland ran. 

 

Little snippet from a scouting report that I agree with...

 

"Len often appears calm and collected on the court, perhaps to a fault, as his toughness and passion for the game are often among the main questions raised about him. His passivity was well-publicized during his freshman season, when he struggled to adapt to a new way of life in the United States. By his sophomore season, Len had mastered English and appeared far more comfortable with his teammates and reporters in the locker room. His on-court demeanor didn't change much, but he frequently flashed some fire, pumping his fists and shouting into the crowd on occasions when he or one of his teammates made a big play. As for his toughness, Len doesn't really seek out contact on either end of the floor, but he doesn't back down from it either. He also rarely looks to the officials for help on the offensive end, where's he undoubtedly a finesse player, more interested in using his quickness and length to score rather than banging down low."

 

The part I highlighted very well may have been the main reason, and he did improve this last season. I just don't get that excited about him as a prospect.  His demeanor almost reminds me of Darko Milicic or something. Too many foreign busts for every Gasol or Dirk out there to use another high draft pick on a project when Biz is already on the roster.  Biz and Len on the court at the same time could be great in a few years...but the percentages lean more towards it being a train wreck. 

 

I think offensively he suffered from bad Guard play. UM guards seem like they would have more TO then assist. If any can make a good entry pass he would have avg, 5 more points a game. Big men need guards to shine on offense.

 

Name me a great Bigman in college or Pro without a good PG?

 




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