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Toundra    634

bruce irvin is higher than hardy and cj?

chris long before allen and peppers?

 

the fug

 

Irvin is a second string player,  8 sacks for a second string is rahter impressive.

He may not be better but at least as good as CJ & Hardy.

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h0llywood    3,564

Based on numbers, Clay Matthews is vastly overrated. Charles Johnson's statistics should place him in the top 5.

 

Here are the total sacks and forced fumbles of the top 15 in the past 2 years

 

Von Miller                 - 30 - 8
Clay Matthews          - 19 - 4
Cameron Wake        - 23.5 - 3
Terrell Suggs           - 16 - 7
Demarcus Ware       - 31 7
Aldon Smith              - 33.5 - 5
Jason Pierre Paul     - 23 - 3
 
Chris Long                - 24.5 - 1
Jared Allen                - 34 - 5
Julius Peppers          - 22.5 - 4
Mario Williams           -15.5 - 5
 
Bruce Irvin                 - 8 - 1
Lamarr Woodley        - 13 - 1
Charles Johnson       - 21.0 - 8
Chandler Jones         - 6 - 3
 

 

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I'm surprised we're regarded that highly. I think everyone whining about it should stop complaining and remember how likely it is that they would've left both of our guys off the list.

 

With that said, Clay Matthews and Cameron Wake at #2 & #3??? Lol.

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nickzz    1,176

Irvin is a second string player,  8 sacks for a second string is rahter impressive.

He may not be better but at least as good as CJ & Hardy.

 

this is a list of the top edge-rushers, not top pass-rushers. bruce irvin is a one dimensional speed rusher. i don't believe he can play the run.

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Toundra    634

 

Based on numbers, Clay Matthews is vastly overrated. Charles Johnson's statistics should place him in the top 5.

 

Here are the total sacks and forced fumbles of the top 15 in the past 2 years

 

Von Miller                 - 30 - 8
Clay Matthews          - 19 - 4
Cameron Wake        - 23.5 - 3
Terrell Suggs           - 16 - 7
Demarcus Ware       - 31 7
Aldon Smith              - 33.5 - 5
Jason Pierre Paul     - 23 - 3
 
Chris Long                - 24.5 - 1
Jared Allen                - 34 - 5
Julius Peppers          - 22.5 - 4
Mario Williams           -15.5 - 5
 
Bruce Irvin                 - 8 - 1
Lamarr Woodley        - 13 - 1
Charles Johnson       - 21.0 - 8
Chandler Jones         - 6 - 3

 

 

Nice stats but without the time spent on the field or the number of plays those stats are worthless.

Irvin played only 1 season as a second string LB/DE.

 

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h0llywood    3,564

Nice stats but without the time spent on the field or the number of plays those stats are worthless.

Irvin played only 1 season as a second string LB/DE.

 

Irvin playing 1 season as 2nd string has nothing to do with the statistics of the other 14 on the list.

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