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#271 koolkatluke

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:24 PM

 

how about this from espn.com

 

 

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Round 1: Cody Zeller (4)

Round 2: None

Analysis: We began hearing on Wednesday that the Bobcats were seriously considering Zeller at No. 4, although it was hard to believe they would take him -- and it would've been even more difficult to accept if we had known the Bobcats would be passing on Nerlens Noel and Ben McLemore to take Zeller.

I like Zeller's NBA potential, but this pick was a major reach. Zeller is athletic and was probably underrated, but he'll have to change his game dramatically to succeed in the NBA, and no one knows whether he'll pull it off. Shooting jumpers in workouts is one thing. In an NBA game, it's another.

The Bobcats have made some pretty bad picks during owner Michael Jordan's reign. I don't think Zeller will be a bust in the way that Adam Morrison and D.J. Augustin were. But I struggle to believe he'll have the career of Noel or McLemore. For the Bobcats' sake, I hope Zeller proves me wrong.

 

Let's go by dumb ass Chris Ford who is butt hurt about his love Child Noel dropping . I can't wait for this dude to bust out and Ford acts like he never said this poo.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 09:29 PM

I can't wait for Noel to prove me right. I want to check when he becomes Kwame Brown how many of these bitch ass experts that bought stock in the Noel Bandwagon. Will act liked they never was riding his jock.



#273 carolina-chuck

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:17 PM






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    No please, tell me more about this Amway....sounds promising

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:19 PM

I mean when you see draft scouts saying Noel is a no brainer top 3 guy in this draft...then proceed to say his offensive ceiling is a Tyson Chandler or he could be Greg Oden...um you lost me.

NBA draft guys are really confusing..it was nice to see Greg Anthony, who had Zellar in his top 5 speak glowingly about him. His argument is scouts got tired of seeing Zellar and the trend now is to fall in love with what you do not see in a guy.

He loves Zellar's face up shot potential, refined post game, Pick and roll defense...screen awareness and athletic ability. Made the statement how much development you could see in his game if he stayed in college for two more years and that he would probally have gone top 3 in last years draft.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 10:47 PM

"Couldn't find the full game when IU upset UK"


2012 NCAA Sweet 16: Indiana Hoosiers (4) vs. Kentucky Wildcats (1)

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 24 Pts, 10 Reb, 1 Ast

Cody Zeller 20 Pts, 7 Reb, 2 Ast



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 03:47 AM

Let's go by dumb ass Chris Ford who is butt hurt about his love Child Noel dropping . I can't wait for this dude to bust out and Ford acts like he never said this poo.

 

 

that would be Chad Ford



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:04 AM

I'm intrigued by the pick.  Saw the draft party video where the majority was booing, and don't see what everyone's deal is.  Zeller is a much safer pick than some of the others.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:08 AM

"Couldn't find the full game when IU upset UK"


2012 NCAA Sweet 16: Indiana Hoosiers (4) vs. Kentucky Wildcats (1)

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist 24 Pts, 10 Reb, 1 Ast

Cody Zeller 20 Pts, 7 Reb, 2 Ast

 

Just watched this for the first half, and wow. 

 

I can see why Zeller was preseason #1.  He went toe to toe with Anthony Davis and more than held his own.  Had some very crafty post moves and worked extremely hard in the post on offense and defense.  I am really impressed with his post passing.  I can really see MKG/Kemba taking advantage of this.  

 

I thought the Paul Gasol comparison was a really big reach initially, but he really has an amazing skill set. 

 

I mean, he will really afford us some flexibility.  We can play big with him at the four, and if someone wants to play small, i.e. Miami with Bosh at the 5.  Then we can matchup then too. (obviously not equal talent). 

 

This is still the same guy that was in this video.  

 

Im excited.



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Posted 29 June 2013 - 08:37 AM

Just watched this for the first half, and wow.

I can see why Zeller was preseason #1. He went toe to toe with Anthony Davis and more than held his own. Had some very crafty post moves and worked extremely hard in the post on offense and defense. I am really impressed with his post passing. I can really see MKG/Kemba taking advantage of this.

I thought the Paul Gasol comparison was a really big reach initially, but he really has an amazing skill set.

I mean, he will really afford us some flexibility. We can play big with him at the four, and if someone wants to play small, i.e. Miami with Bosh at the 5. Then we can matchup then too. (obviously not equal talent).

This is still the same guy that was in this video.

Im excited.


I noticed his post passing as well in that video.

If we can get a center that has good hands, then Zeller and that center could form a very good high-low combo.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 07:17 PM

I like the pick. All of you haters whining that we didn't draft a passive, raw, inconsistent shooting guard that can't even create his own shot need to chill out. Like someone else said, if Zeller was black all of you would be saying how great of a pick it was, that's a fact. Zeller WILL be succesfull. He comes from a stable family with brothers in the NBA to help him transition well, on the other hand, Mclemore comes from a bad family situation where his brother is currently in Jail, Has maturity issues. In this years draft, I like that we went for the safer bet. Now we are set up to get a superstar in next years draft. I have a feeling this pick is going to work out for us



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:00 AM

I like the pick. All of you haters whining that we didn't draft a passive, raw, inconsistent shooting guard that can't even create his own shot need to chill out. Like someone else said, if Zeller was black all of you would be saying how great of a pick it was, that's a fact. Zeller WILL be succesfull. He comes from a stable family with brothers in the NBA to help him transition well, on the other hand, Mclemore comes from a bad family situation where his brother is currently in Jail, Has maturity issues. In this years draft, I like that we went for the safer bet. Now we are set up to get a superstar in next years draft. I have a feeling this pick is going to work out for us

 

I like your positive attitude of Zeller, but I think many on here has already soften up to him. And, really no need to degrade McLemore with negative comments (bad family, brother in jail, maturity issues). The kid seems like a nice guy.



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Posted 30 June 2013 - 01:08 AM

Who is "CONNER BOYD"???

 

I know you're in here. Just wanna say wassup.

 

Found a BR article about Zeller, and this sounds exactly like someone from this place. So, Conner I know you're in here. Good write up. Say HI to me bro.

 

Cody Zeller Will Prove Fans Wrong and Become an All-Star Potential Player

BY: Conner Boyd

 

 

As a Charlotte Bobcats fan, many things happened to me last night.

 

 

With the Cleveland Cavaliers shocking the world by taking Anthony Bennett at No. 1 overall, and the Orlando Magic opting for Victor Oladipo instead of Ben McLemore, that left available for the Bobcats at pick No. 4 arguably the two biggest names going into this draft: Nerlens Noel, who was the top pick on a number of draft boards, and Ben McLemore, who was at or near the top, as well.

Suddenly, the Bobcats pick was much, much more attractive.

 

Tensions mounted. On Twitter and in a draft forum, people were frantically posting who they did and didn't want.

 

Cody Zeller was not mentioned in any way.

 

But suddenly there was Zeller's name, coming from the lips of David Stern at the podium. The Bobcats took Zeller with the No. 4 pick and apparently had no intention of trading him.

 

My initial feelings as his name was announced? Absolute shock.

 

It was a mixture of complete surprise, slight disappointment over passing on Len (who was my top prospect in the draft), and rushing relief that general manager Rich Cho and the rest of the war room decided not to take Nerlens Noel, whose knee had been red-flagged by the Phoenix Suns, who have what is widely considered the best medical staff in the NBA.

 

But as the shock subsided, I realized how smart of a pick it was.

 

Zeller has drawn favorable comparisons to All-Stars LaMarcus Aldridge and Chris Bosh, both of whom were thin centers upon entering the NBA but who successfully transitioned to power forward.

 

The biggest difference among Zeller and Aldridge and Bosh? Zeller's combine numbers were vastly superior to those posted by Aldridge and Bosh before their respective drafts. 

His combine numbers weren't just insane, they were unprecedented. Both his standing and maximum vertical leap broke combine records for big men, and his lane agility and three-quarter floor sprint scores weren't just fast for a big man.

 

They were fast period.

 

He had the among the fastest times in both categories for any position, including guards. Just how good were his combine scores? Let's compare his measurables to those of Aldridge and Bosh.

 

 

Standing/Max Vertical

 Zeller: 35.5 and 37.5 inches, Bosh: 30 and 33 inches, Aldridge: 26.5 and 34 inches.

 

Lane Agility

Zeller: 10.82 seconds, Bosh: 11.8 seconds, Aldridge: 12.02 seconds.

 

3/4 Court Sprint

Zeller: 3.15 seconds, Bosh: 3.3 seconds, Aldridge: 3.43 seconds.

 

(Combine measurements courtesy of NBA.com)

 

Also, Zeller's wingspan measured just a shade under 6'11", considerably longer than the previously reported 6'8". He's also about an inch taller than Bosh and Aldridge.

 

People looked at Zeller as an athletically challenged big with short arms. Pure skill, no athleticism. Turns out people were wrong. Extremely wrong.

 

Zeller was booed by fans at Charlotte's NBA draft party, which was an absolute embarrassment. Booing a smart pick just because it wasn't a "sexy" one is ignorant, and Bobcats fans who openly embarrassed this franchise by booing the pick will be proven wrong by one of the most athletic bigs in recent history, and a guy who is extremely gifted on offense and defense.

 

Zeller will be asked to play center and power forward in Charlotte, but mostly power forward. At PF, Zeller will have a height advantage over most opposing players, and he has a set of offensive skills to warrant the lofty comparisons to Bosh and Aldridge.

 

He can face up and drive to the rim. He's a big leaper and finishes with excellent touch around the basket. He's active on the boards and uses his size and athleticism to get second chance points. He can score with both hands and over both shoulders, and he proved in college that he can convert plenty of hook shots.

 

But what has really impressed everyone in the NBA is how good of a shooter he has turned out to be.

 

It wasn't something Zeller was asked to do at Indiana. Take jump shots. They had plenty of guys to do that. And, at center, Zeller did what his team needed him to do and rarely had the opportunity to showcase his shooting skills.

 

But at the combine and at team workouts, he proved that his great shooting form allows him to hit perimeter shots with ease. He also showed in work-out situations that he could step back to the three-point line and comfortably knock down shots.

 

At the introductory press conference for Zeller, head coach Steve Clifford and GM Cho described his shooting abilities as "eye-opening," and it was essentially that ability that sealed the deal for the Bobcats.

 

The biggest complaint among fans is that they could have moved back in the draft for Zeller and picked up key assets along the way. Mock drafts had Zeller going around No. 9, and Charlotte was in discussions with Minnesota to trade the No. 4 overall pick to the T-Wolves for Derrick Williams and Minnesota's picks at No. 9 and, perhaps, No. 26.

 

Why didn't they do that? 

 

It's simple. Zeller wouldn't have made it to No. 9.

 

Let me make myself clear. Despite my love for Alex Len and the scoring abilities of Ben McLemore, Zeller was the best pick the Bobcats could have made. He offers more rebounding, and will be a reliable stretch 4, unlike Byron Mullens, who is not receiving a qualifying offer from Charlotte.

 

Zeller can score in so many ways and has such a refined touch around the rim that he's going to be considered a candidate for Rookie of the Year. Between his unprecedented athleticism paired with his skill and Kemba Walker running pick-and-roll and pick-and-pop plays, Zeller is going to score a ton. And after a year with Charlotte, watching game tape of Zeller and Aldridge will be freakishly similar.

 

Bennett, McLemore and Zeller all have the best chance to become stars in this league.

 

Zeller is the ultimate underdog at this point. And he is going to emerge as possibly the best player out of this draft.

 

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That should shut up booing fans.

 

Seriously, people look at us as the joke of the NBA, and fans only embarrass us more by reacting as a child who was served an apple instead of a candy bar. 

 

Zeller's athleticism, hard-working attitude, high basketball IQ, and skills on both ends of the floor are exactly what this franchise needs at the power forward position.

 

The Bobcats got their man, and he will quickly become one of the major faces of this franchise.

 

The Big Handsome is in, folks. Like it or not. Let's see how he does in Summer League, training camp, and preseason before we start booing. 

 

Anyway, how can you boo a guy nicknamed The Big Handsome?"

 




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