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#16 SooSlow84

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 02:06 PM

I don't think Gaydosh can be put on PS. Also no way we cut Colin Jones.

I'm pretty sure he can. Why can't he?

 

I think we would keep Colby Cameron over Pickles, Pilares is gone, and Jones doesn't get cut...

I don't see it, unless Cameron is moved to the PS to clear a roster spot. The only reason I didn't do that was Clausen's guaranteed money.

 

SCP will not like your gaydosh decision!

I don't like my Gaydosh decision but I'm trying to keep my emotion out of it. I want him to succeed.

 

I think it is more likely they keep 5 DE's....as they often slide CJ and/or Hardy into the DT position on passing downs.

 

It could go either way (5DT-4DE or 4DT-5DE).....but, I would bet 9 DL are kept.

This is exactly why I cut Frank. Hardy's ability to move to the inside on passing downs makes him expendable.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:03 PM

No way Williams doesn't make the squad over hartstock. He can both catch and block. I want to see Lester make it as well. If those two guys make it I think we have a great under the radar roster. Add in a couple of oline pick ups and maybe Mikell we will compete with any team

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:08 PM

No way Williams doesn't make the squad over hartstock. He can both catch and block. I want to see Lester make it as well. If those two guys make it I think we have a great under the radar roster. Add in a couple of oline pick ups and maybe Mikell we will compete with any team

Mitchell will perform great this year.

Also there's a very real chance Williams doesn't make it and hartstock does. I would love to see Williams make it though but yeah we definitely need o line help.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 04:40 PM

Dockery, Jones and Smith won't get cut.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 06:06 PM

Mitchell will perform great this year.

Also there's a very real chance Williams doesn't make it and hartstock does. I would love to see Williams make it though but yeah we definitely need o line help.


I just have a hard time believing we sign this dude to a three year deal for him to not make the squad. I'm sure it's a series of one year deals we can walk from easy but why have those years in the first place. We know getts has been looking for a second pass catching te cause we were close to pulling the trigger on Eifert and hartstock is not the catching te we want. But I'm high on Mitchell and Campbell but it would be nice to have one the better safeties in the league so things like the atl game don't happen. Moore or Wharton need to happen

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 06:09 PM

I just have a hard time believing we sign this dude to a three year deal for him to not make the squad. I'm sure it's a series of one year deals we can walk from easy but why have those years in the first place. We know getts has been looking for a second pass catching te cause we were close to pulling the trigger on Eifert and hartstock is not the catching te we want. But I'm high on Mitchell and Campbell but it would be nice to have one the better safeties in the league so things like the atl game don't happen. Moore or Wharton need to happen


Most of the camp bodies have a three year deal. Zero guaranteed. But there's always a possibility they cut brockel if this dude is such a good blocker as well.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 06:38 PM

I think Dockery makes it, Hartsock doesn't and Armanti will not be the weak line at WR.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 07:11 PM

I think we keep 5 CBs.  White is gone.  I think Lester is put on the PS, and Colin Jones makes the team.  

Kearse makes team over Colin Cole.  I think Brandon Williams or another TE picked up on waivers will make the team.

 



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 07:40 PM

Pie for knowing your audience with the first part.

 

About your actual content, I have a few disagreements.  My list is tempered a bit more with my own desires and optimism, but still what I realistically see happening.  

 

- I see us rolling with 7 WRs this year: Smitty, Lafell, Ginn, Hixon are the obvious picks.  The final three I think will be Gettis, Pilares and Adams.  I hope and pray that Gettleman isn't blinded by whatever homerism or whatever has allowed Armanti to retain a spot on the team so long but the dude simply cannot play football in the NFL.  I don't care that he's having yet another "breakout training camp".  It happens every year.  I'm sick of it.  Bersin is another red herring.  If we were to keep 6 WRs instead of 7, my heart says Pilares would be the odd man out.  His ceiling simply isn't as high as Gettis or Adams.  But my head says it'd be Gettis :(

 

- I agree we'll probably just go with 8 DL this year, the same DEs you mentioned, Star, KK, D. Edwards are locks.  For the final DT spot I honestly couldn't guess who would get it among Cole, Kearse or Gaydosh.  Cole was good in the past, but his present is an unknown.  I'd hate to keep him because he gets through camp looking good and not getting injured, then in the first few weeks something happens (we all know people who have had injuries, especially major ones, are more likely to get injured again even if it's not specifically related to the original injury) and we let go of two young reasonably talented DTs.  If Gaydosh doesn't make the final 53 I'm sure they'll try to PS stash him, but he very well may get swiped by another team.  Kearse is a very solid backup and will certainly get a spot on another team if not us.  Something to think about, a year ago we were the team waiting for another team that was loaded with capable DT talent to make cuts so we could find a starter from someone else's trash.  Now we're the team loaded at DT talent and having to make the hard decision of who to cut.

 

- I think Brandon Williams easily makes the team over Brockel or Hartsock.  Probably Hartsock since Brockel fills the FB role too.

 

- As much as I WANT Nakamura gone, I don't see it happening.  I think he's as much one of Rivera's guys as Gettis isn't, despite the talent dictating otherwise in both cases.  Rivera's personal biases could hurt the team in both cases, letting Gettis go and keeping Nakamura.  C. Jones did well in STs, I'd be a little surprised if he was let go.  As much as I'm rooting for Lester, and want him to make the team based on potential, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to stash him on the PS (and then he gets filched by another team).

 

-  I think at least Poole goes on the PS again.  Our RB squad is definitely stuffed, so neither Poole nor Smith are making the roster unless we're decimated by injuries, but of the two Poole is my favorite.  He was looking awesome in preseason games a year or two ago (I forget which year it was).

 

- I'm not entirely sure we take 7 LBs, I don't remember how many we've kept in the past.  A starter and his backup seem like it would be enough, so I would think 6 is sufficient.  Jason Williams would obviously be the odd guy out in that case.

 

- I think Dockery makes the team.  Could be White or DJ Moore who misses out.  As someone pointed out in another thread, it would seem Moore was signed as Captain insurance.  Since we kept him, Moore's importance is reduced.

 

-  I think Byers and/or Garry Williams won't make the final cut in favor of a vet/vets they bring in (Moore or Wharton).
 

- The current other K/Ps we have aren't going to take Gano or Nortman's jobs.  Still possible we bring in someone else and they could.  Gano and Nortman both were below par (but not terrible overall) last year and Nortman is still young, could still pan out.

 

- This might finally be the year we decide to just roll with 2 QBs.  Jimmeh is a waste of a roster spot.  Guy's been classy and handled himself well since he's been here.  Give him a chance to go somewhere else and compete for a backup job.  He doesn't benefit the team at all.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 08:36 PM

I think we would keep Colby Cameron over Pickles, Pilares is gone, and Jones doesn't get cut...

I thought so too at first. Keep a developmental QB on the PS, frees a roster spot.  However, I hear CC has been very bad.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:24 PM

I think we keep 5 CBs.  White is gone.  I think Lester is put on the PS, and Colin Jones makes the team.  

Kearse makes team over Colin Cole.  I think Brandon Williams or another TE picked up on waivers will make the team.

 

Lester is to much of a risk now to put on PS. Another team will snacth him up before the day was over. So that's not going to happen.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:32 PM

Lester is to much of a risk now to put on PS. Another team will snacth him up before the day was over. So that's not going to happen.

 

Everyone thought that about Kendric Burney last year as well.  Lester has a lot of limitations.  I know people are excited about him right now, but there is a very slim chance he makes this team.  Lester and DJ Campbell both will not make this team.. only one of them will, and I believe it will be Campbell.



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:35 PM

Pie for knowing your audience with the first part.

 

About your actual content, I have a few disagreements.  My list is tempered a bit more with my own desires and optimism, but still what I realistically see happening.  

 

- I see us rolling with 7 WRs this year: Smitty, Lafell, Ginn, Hixon are the obvious picks.  The final three I think will be Gettis, Pilares and Adams.  I hope and pray that Gettleman isn't blinded by whatever homerism or whatever has allowed Armanti to retain a spot on the team so long but the dude simply cannot play football in the NFL.  I don't care that he's having yet another "breakout training camp".  It happens every year.  I'm sick of it.  Bersin is another red herring.  If we were to keep 6 WRs instead of 7, my heart says Pilares would be the odd man out.  His ceiling simply isn't as high as Gettis or Adams.  But my head says it'd be Gettis :(

 

- I agree we'll probably just go with 8 DL this year, the same DEs you mentioned, Star, KK, D. Edwards are locks.  For the final DT spot I honestly couldn't guess who would get it among Cole, Kearse or Gaydosh.  Cole was good in the past, but his present is an unknown.  I'd hate to keep him because he gets through camp looking good and not getting injured, then in the first few weeks something happens (we all know people who have had injuries, especially major ones, are more likely to get injured again even if it's not specifically related to the original injury) and we let go of two young reasonably talented DTs.  If Gaydosh doesn't make the final 53 I'm sure they'll try to PS stash him, but he very well may get swiped by another team.  Kearse is a very solid backup and will certainly get a spot on another team if not us.  Something to think about, a year ago we were the team waiting for another team that was loaded with capable DT talent to make cuts so we could find a starter from someone else's trash.  Now we're the team loaded at DT talent and having to make the hard decision of who to cut.

 

- I think Brandon Williams easily makes the team over Brockel or Hartsock.  Probably Hartsock since Brockel fills the FB role too.

 

- As much as I WANT Nakamura gone, I don't see it happening.  I think he's as much one of Rivera's guys as Gettis isn't, despite the talent dictating otherwise in both cases.  Rivera's personal biases could hurt the team in both cases, letting Gettis go and keeping Nakamura.  C. Jones did well in STs, I'd be a little surprised if he was let go.  As much as I'm rooting for Lester, and want him to make the team based on potential, I wouldn't be surprised if they try to stash him on the PS (and then he gets filched by another team).

 

-  I think at least Poole goes on the PS again.  Our RB squad is definitely stuffed, so neither Poole nor Smith are making the roster unless we're decimated by injuries, but of the two Poole is my favorite.  He was looking awesome in preseason games a year or two ago (I forget which year it was).

 

- I'm not entirely sure we take 7 LBs, I don't remember how many we've kept in the past.  A starter and his backup seem like it would be enough, so I would think 6 is sufficient.  Jason Williams would obviously be the odd guy out in that case.

 

- I think Dockery makes the team.  Could be White or DJ Moore who misses out.  As someone pointed out in another thread, it would seem Moore was signed as Captain insurance.  Since we kept him, Moore's importance is reduced.

 

-  I think Byers and/or Garry Williams won't make the final cut in favor of a vet/vets they bring in (Moore or Wharton).
 

- The current other K/Ps we have aren't going to take Gano or Nortman's jobs.  Still possible we bring in someone else and they could.  Gano and Nortman both were below par (but not terrible overall) last year and Nortman is still young, could still pan out.

 

- This might finally be the year we decide to just roll with 2 QBs.  Jimmeh is a waste of a roster spot.  Guy's been classy and handled himself well since he's been here.  Give him a chance to go somewhere else and compete for a backup job.  He doesn't benefit the team at all.

 

1. Naka is gone the numbers just don't work for him.

 

2. Dockery isn't going to make it. Moore can play FS as well so he has more value.

 

3. I see 9 Dlinemen and 9 Olinemen making the team.

 

4. I think Hartsog, B-will and Brockle make the team.

 

5. We are only keeping 6 WR

 

 


 



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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:35 PM

I don' t trust Gano at all at kicker. Hopefully Getts finds someone better once cuts are made.

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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:40 PM

Everyone thought that about Kendric Burney last year as well.  Lester has a lot of limitations.  I know people are excited about him right now, but there is a very slim chance he makes this team.  Lester and DJ Campbell both will not make this team.. only one of them will, and I believe it will be Campbell.

 

They both will make the team. Lester was a highly sought after UDFA. He won't last a hour on PS. Bet on it.
 




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