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McCrory issues first veto, rejecting welfare drug testing


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#1 jtnc

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:37 PM

House Bill 392 also would have required social service offices to verify applicants' criminal history and share that information with law enforcement. The governor signed an executive order to carry out that portion of the bill.

 
“While I support the efforts to ensure that fugitive felons are not on public assistance rolls and to share information about them with law enforcement, other parts of this bill are unfair, fiscally irresponsible and have potential operational problems,” McCrory said in a statement. “Drug testing Work First applicants as directed in this bill could lead to inconsistent application across the state’s 100 counties. That’s a recipe for government overreach and unnecessary government intrusion.”
 
The governor pointed to the failure of similar drug-testing programs in Utah, Arizona and other states, saying "it makes no sense to repeat those mistakes in North Carolina.”
 
“This is not a smart way to combat drug abuse,” he said.
 
The executive order, dubbed “Strengthening Fugitive Apprehension and Protecting Public Benefits,” directs state agencies to develop a plan and recommend the best way to exchange information about fugitive felons.
 
House Speaker Thom Tillis said he was disappointed by the veto, although he backs McCrory's executive order. He didn't say whether he was in favor of voting to possibly override the veto.

 

http://www.wral.com/...sting/12779555/

 



#2 cookinwithgas

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:46 PM

It's been a failure - an expensive failure - whenever its been tried, if it even makes it past the courts. It's stupid and exists only to reinforce the stereotypes neanderthal conservatives have.

 

Government overreach is only helpful when taking away voting rights.



#3 g5jamz

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:49 PM

Maybe in the future.



#4 Darth Biscuit

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:51 PM

Legalize drugs, problem solved.  

 

Put the money saved from drug enforcement into education... wait, Pat and his cronies want to privatize schools... nevermind.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:51 PM

 

That’s a recipe for government overreach and unnecessary government intrusion

 

 

Well that is refreshing



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 02:53 PM

Legalize drugs, problem solved.  

 

Put the money saved from drug enforcement into education... wait, Pat and his cronies want to privatize schools... nevermind.

 

Privatization of schools is pretty libertarian. I 'd love to hear arguments for and against.

 

But yea just legalize drugs already



#7 Harris Aballah

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 03:13 PM

as a conservative I have to say that this was a dumb idea from day 1. too expensive for starters. I personally would prefer some sort of community service program to compensate for benefits. but of course we have turned community service into a form of punishment.

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 03:17 PM

Good for him!  These programs have been expensive and total failures everywhere they've been tried; it appears that at least some of the stereotypes of people on welfare are not borne out by actual evidence, who'd'a thunk it.



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:12 PM

Remember a certain poster here saying he has reached out to Pat's camp and to be on the lookout for good stuff?

#10 rodeo

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:30 PM

good for him. has been a complete waste of money literally every time it's ever been tried. it always ends up 1) costing more than they would have paid out in the first place and 2) showing that people on welfare test positive for drugs at a lower rate than the general population.



#11 stirs

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:34 PM

So is he still the Devil?

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:37 PM

yep, the actual reason he vetoed it was because it would have been thrown out for legal reasons anyways



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:37 PM

"... saying "it makes no sense to repeat those mistakes in North Carolina.”

 

While at the same time signing bills that demonstrate North Carolina didn't learn a damn thing from the South's mistakes going back to the civil war and vowing to move itself back into the 19th century.

 



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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:39 PM

yep, the actual reason he vetoed it was because it would have been thrown out for legal reasons anyways


So that makes him smart?

#15 cookinwithgas

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 04:51 PM

no hes smart anyways. He already is going to have VoterID legal battles, he doesn't need this one too. It's not like the Tea Crazies are going to go Dem next election, all he needs to do is keep the base happy and the opponents as docile as possible, Art Pope will take care of the rest.




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