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Interesting tidbit on Beason's restructure...FA at end of the Season?

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#31 SooSlow84

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:21 AM

but what would be the point of trashing all of hurney's players when there are some good ones. do you mean like Cam and Luke too?

Beason, Godfrey, double trouble and CJ would allow for cap space and a fresh start with a new regime.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:22 AM

but what would be the point of trashing all of hurney's players when there are some good ones. do you mean like Cam and Luke too?

 

some may be long in the tooth, some may not be ideal for the new direction, etc.    There of course would be some that survived and he wanted but Dave is setting a nice table for IF it came to that...

 

Cam and Luke are rookie contact guys...so he isn't tied down to them.  I would hope he keeps them.  NFL history supports a new HC would be bad for Cam.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:22 AM

Honestly I trust the Cap guy from Twitter more than Pat Y.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:23 AM

Beason, Godfrey, double trouble and CJ would allow for cap space and a fresh start with a new regime.

 

i'd only have a problem with CJ. but i realize his cap is ridiculous.

 

i just thought he meant EVERYBODY.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:24 AM

some may be long in the tooth, some may not be ideal for the new direction, etc.    There of course would be some that survived and he wanted but Dave is setting a nice table for IF it came to that...

 

Cam and Luke are rookie contact guys...so he isn't tied down to them.  I would hope he keeps them.  NFL history supports a new HC would be bad for Cam.

 

i just don't get how any rational GM would not keep at the VERY least Cam and Luke. that makes absolutely no sense to me if this actually happened.

 

Cause i think about the Colts and what they did, they just kept Wayne. I can't think of anybody else. But they didn't have a franchises at both D and O.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:27 AM

Gettleman wouldn't let Cam go, because Richardson wouldn't let me let Cam go.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 11:27 AM

i'd only have a problem with CJ. but i realize his cap is ridiculous.

i just thought he meant EVERYBODY.

I don't see it. Luke and cam would stay, cam at least until his rookie contract is up. Many others wouldn't make sense to send packing either.
The colts had a lot of older players with less talent. We have young guys with unlimited ceiling.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:00 PM

He'll skip town as soon as he gets a chance to start at MLB somewhere and he will do good



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:03 PM

i just don't get how any rational GM would not keep at the VERY least Cam and Luke. that makes absolutely no sense to me if this actually happened.

 

Cause i think about the Colts and what they did, they just kept Wayne. I can't think of anybody else. But they didn't have a franchises at both D and O.

again, setting the table to do gut a roster....doesn't mean everyone goes.  Luke is a stud who would work in any defense.  I am sure he would have a spot in any "new direction".

 

new HC's have been a very bad thing for all QBs that didn't have rings...maybe Cam could be the exception.   They all bring in "their guy" for "their O" in that 1-3 year window upon arriving.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:19 PM

Not if its in the contract to cut him earlier.

Not sure all the details without seeing the exact language but I bet Gettleman has a plan or he wouldn't have agreed to it in the first place.  I doubt we are looking at taking a huge cap hit next year unless he knows how to mitigate it.  He still has to pay Hardy and other guys next off season. 



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:21 PM

again, setting the table to do gut a roster....doesn't mean everyone goes.  Luke is a stud who would work in any defense.  I am sure he would have a spot in any "new direction".

 

new HC's have been a very bad thing for all QBs that didn't have rings...maybe Cam could be the exception.   They all bring in "their guy" for "their O" in that 1-3 year window upon arriving.

Just like he gutted the roster this year and fired all the staff other than Rivera.  You seem to want us to just blow everything up and it isn't going to happen.  Gettleman knows this team is on the right track and once we have a winning season this year, there will be no reason to blow it up at all.  BTW Rivera has a good chance to be here next year as well.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:25 PM

http://www.spotrac.c...ers/jon-beason/

 



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:38 PM

Not sure all the details without seeing the exact language but I bet Gettleman has a plan or he wouldn't have agreed to it in the first place. I doubt we are looking at taking a huge cap hit next year unless he knows how to mitigate it. He still has to pay Hardy and other guys next off season.

He wouldn't be a cap hit regardless. He would clear up 2.5mil in cap space if he's not a June first cut, and 6.5 mil if he is. (But again I don't think he'd be eligible)

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:42 PM

He wouldn't be a cap hit regardless. He would clear up 2.5mil in cap space if he's not a June first cut, and 6.5 mil if he is. (But again I don't think he'd be eligible)

I don't know if a player voids a contract if it is the same as if we cut him after the season is over.  We clearly wouldn't be on the hook for his salary but his signing bonus bonus could accelerate and we would still have that as a cap hit.  I am sure others know more than I do.



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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:46 PM

If indeed true, not sure how this has gone unnoticed this long.

At the end of the day it's a business, but Beason will always be a Panther to me regardless.



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