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#76 carolina-chuck

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:45 PM

This is a lot of words that really don't say anything.

Kaep and Cam are similar, except that Cam is bigger, stronger, faster, and has higher upside.

You do this in your posts a ton and I'm still hoping you learn better sometime, see here:

So stating facts is considered "Sulking and Crying" ?

Harbs is saved Alex Smith, he groomed Kaep, the San Fran OLine's BACKUPS are likely better than half of our OLine, Kaep has better playcalling, better Defense and one could argue better WRs/TE.

 

Please start doing some research before spewing out opinions based on your feels.

 

Bc imo my "feels" are correct. If you guys will just quit being homers and blinding yourself with all these records Cam broke instead of facing the fact that Cam cant win under pressures then yall see the truths. Go ask another fan base other than here, and see what they think of Cam and what he lacks as a QB. Cam have not win a big time game here in a Carolina uniform other than beating a 5th round rookie QB and the Houston Texans without their DC (Phillips) in 2011.

 

If Cam's upside is higher, how come he hasnt reach that point yet after two years? Kaep was a much rawer QB than Cam coming out and he played under a full time read-option system at Nevada compared to Cam at Auburn. Let's quit assuming that Cam has the higher upside. Kaep does and he has shown that at this point in time, he is a greater passer than Cam.

 

My prediction is, if Cam doesn't manage to throw for at least "24 TD" passes this season, we're all going to be watching the Playoffs without the Carolina Panthers again. Cam ran for 22 totals TDs his first two seasons and he managed to win us 13 games. Assuming that we do go with less of the read-option throughout this season, I would assume it'd be pretty tough for Cam to come close to what he had last season (8 rushing tds). If that passing td category doesnt increase drastically for Cam, we wont have nothing to cheer for after week 17.

 



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:48 PM

Im going to end up buying all 22 I know it :(

Yea, that play looks completely different from the end zone cam.

 

I got the impression that this play is designed to go to 89 and he is actually staring down the MLB, He locks onto smith after he passes behind #54. The throw is behind Smith and that is why it's a near pick, plain and simple to me..



#78 carolina-chuck

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 05:49 PM

Yeah let's compare Kaepernick on arguably the best team in the NFL right now from top to bottom on both sides of the ball with one of the best coaches in the league to Cam, a makeshift o line, this receiver core, and Ron Rivera....

 

The sad thing about Chuck is, he is 100% serious with his statements. It's mind boggling.

 

The sad thing about TheRed is, he is still 100% sucking onto my balls. It's mind boggling. Get off my balls.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:04 PM

Of course all you can respond with is middle school level insults.

Not everyone has to agree with your uninformed "opinions" Chuck.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:16 PM

Of course all you can respond with is middle school level insults.

Not everyone has to agree with your uninformed "opinions" Chuck.

 

Get lost Red. I'm sick and tired of you supposedly "joking" around, "attacking" me, mentioning my names, etc. every single other day bc you can't let go of a disagreement we had in the past. Quit holding a damn GRUDGE and leave me the fug alone. Grow the hell up. Ive told you this on more than one occasion already. I'm entitled to my own "opinions" whether you like it or not. No one is right and no one is wrong. You dont like it, move along. It's a fuggn talking forum dude! A fuggn "forum", so dont make it a life for u. I come on here to read updates of the team and post my opinions just like everyone else. You dont have to mention/attack my name in every one of your post bc your still BITTER about the past.

 

Grow the hell up Red! This is as nice as I can tell you. This place have become a "JOKE" the last couple of years bc we have mods/admins who cant take control of this place, and people who wants to be assholes like you around here.

 

Talk about "FOOTBALL" and quit insulting others' opinions!!! I dont insult your intelligence, so dont insult mines.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:28 PM

Here is a capture from the pass to Smith that was nearly intercepted.

 

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Things I notice ...

 

3 defenders on the right with 2 options. 2 defenders on the left with 2 receivers.

 

A) Smitty is not open. He is covered up pretty well by the DB. The underneath taken away by the linebacker.

 

B ) Ginn, hidden behind fox logo, is open and looking for the ball. He ran a great route and got the needed separation.

 

C) Lafell apparently is neither open nor looking for the ball.

 

D) Pretty decent pass protection, except for Bell.

 

 

Watching the play, Cam never takes his eyes off Smith, sadly.

 

 

So Cam has Delhomme Disease just Great!  Might as well retire him now.



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:33 PM

Bc imo my "feels" are correct. If you guys will just quit being homers and blinding yourself with all these records Cam broke instead of facing the fact that Cam cant win under pressures then yall see the truths. Go ask another fan base other than here, and see what they think of Cam and what he lacks as a QB. Cam have not win a big time game here in a Carolina uniform other than beating a 5th round rookie QB and the Houston Texans without their DC (Phillips) in 2011.

 

 

In your opinion your opinion is correct, you don't say...

 

So if we ignore the evidence and just go off your bullshit "feels" we can see that losses "under pressures" are Cam's fault and his fault alone. 

 

If we go to another message board, which is sure to be full of unbiased and educated opinions like yours we can hear their dipshit opinions that will mirror your dipshit opinion?

 

and if we throw out Cam's wins and add plenty of discredits we will see Cam can't win a big game. Because the Saints last year didn't have Peyton, and Atlanta was just bored and didn't care, and and and....

 


 

If Cam's upside is higher, how come he hasnt reach that point yet after two years? Kaep was a much rawer QB than Cam coming out and he played under a full time read-option system at Nevada compared to Cam at Auburn. Let's quit assuming that Cam has the higher upside. Kaep does and he has shown that at this point in time, he is a greater passer than Cam

 

 

So lets recap all this:

1) Kaep needed more refinement than Cam, despite having played in MAC his entire college career compared to Cam who played a year of ...poo D5? and then started at AU and won a national title. Ya know what, I'll even concede this point and agree Kaep needed more work, because the rest is so stupid I don't need this...

 

. 2)Cam's offense at Auburn wasn't a read-options system, I suppose it was some magical fuging unicorn offense that looked exactly like the read-option. Instead of the Read-Option  maybe it was the Illiterate-NoAnswer 

 

3)Lets just drop the idea that Cam had more upside, because it goes against everything ever written about him

 

4) In Kaeps 7-8 games he has obviously shown more than Cam's 32 games so we should just ignore any effects having a QB guru for a coach has likely helped Kaep and ignore that Cam's best teacher was likely George Whitfield and Don Shula's fugtard son.

 

 

...

 

My prediction is, if Cam doesn't manage to throw for at least "24 TD" passes this season, we're all going to be watching the Playoffs without the Carolina Panthers again. Cam ran for 22 totals TDs his first two seasons and he managed to win us 13 games. Assuming that we do go with less of the read-option throughout this season, I would assume it'd be pretty tough for Cam to come close to what he had last season (8 rushing tds). If that passing td category doesnt increase drastically for Cam, we wont have nothing to cheer for after week 17.

 

 

 

Thats pretty bold man...you mean if Cam doesn't average more that 1.3 touchdowns a game this season that Panthers might not make the Playoffs? I mean poo, I can't even process such a bold opinion.

 

You should add " I bets ifs Cams threws more Inceptions than TD's totals in the seasons the Panthers teams probably most likely wont be really much good"

 

 

Don't be mad, this is Huddle tough love, I'll make you a better poster, I swears.

 

 

 

 

Here is the deal. 

Cam is raw, is improving and still needs help. Panther fans can either be patient, supporting and critique with some level of intellect OR they can make posts like yours



#83 carolina-chuck

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:46 PM

In your opinion your opinion is correct, you don't say...

 

So if we ignore the evidence and just go off your bullshit "feels" we can see that losses "under pressures" are Cam's fault and his fault alone. 

 

If we go to another message board, which is sure to be full of unbiased and educated opinions like yours we can hear their dipshit opinions that will mirror your dipshit opinion?

 

and if we throw out Cam's wins and add plenty of discredits we will see Cam can't win a big game. Because the Saints last year didn't have Peyton, and Atlanta was just bored and didn't care, and and and....

 


 

So lets recap all this:

1) Kaep needed more refinement than Cam, despite having played in MAC his entire college career compared to Cam who played a year of ...poo D5? and then started at AU and won a national title. Ya know what, I'll even concede this point and agree Kaep needed more work, because the rest is so stupid I don't need this...

 

. 2)Cam's offense at Auburn wasn't a read-options system, I suppose it was some magical fuging unicorn offense that looked exactly like the read-option. Instead of the Read-Option  maybe it was the Illiterate-NoAnswer 

 

3)Lets just drop the idea that Cam had more upside, because it goes against everything ever written about him

 

4) In Kaeps 7-8 games he has obviously shown more than Cam's 32 games so we should just ignore any effects having a QB guru for a coach has likely helped Kaep and ignore that Cam's best teacher was likely George Whitfield and Don Shula's fugtard son.

 

 

...

 

 

Thats pretty bold man...you mean if Cam doesn't average more that 1.3 touchdowns a game this season that Panthers might not make the Playoffs? I mean poo, I can't even process such a bold opinion.

 

You should add " I bets ifs Cams threws more Inceptions than TD's totals in the seasons the Panthers teams probably most likely wont be really much good"

 

 

Don't be mad, this is Huddle tough love, I'll make you a better poster, I swears.

 

 

 

 

Here is the deal. 

Cam is raw, is improving and still needs help. Panther fans can either be patient, supporting and critique with some level of intellect OR they can make posts like yours

 

Im done talking to you. I respect your opinions, but this isnt the first time you insulted one of my post. And again, trying to "break" me down in the past, and now trying to make me a "better" poster?? LMFAO Kurb. Who's to say that you are a good poster yourself, but only you. The only reason why there's a hundred people backing you up is bc they're afraid of being bant so they sucker up to and agree to every good and retarted post you make.

 

I never said I wasnt a Cam supporter. Ive been a supporter day one and vouched to draft the man before the draft. But, I forgot that it's illegal to critique Cam on this board. I dont need no one to agree with me. Im entitled to my opinions.
 



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 06:53 PM

Im done talking to you. I respect your opinions, but this isnt the first time you insulted one of my post. And again, trying to "break" me down in the past, and now trying to make me a "better" poster?? LMFAO Kurb. Who's to say that you are a good poster yourself, but only you. The only reason why there's a hundred people backing you up is bc they're afraid of being bant so they sucker up to and agree to every good and retarted post you make.

 

I never said I wasnt a Cam supporter. Ive been a supporter day one and vouched to draft the man before the draft. But, I forgot that it's illegal to critique Cam on this board. I dont need no one to agree with me. Im entitled to my opinions.
 

 

Is it better to be feared or loved ? I say why not both?

 

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:00 PM

Get lost Red. I'm sick and tired of you supposedly "joking" around, "attacking" me, mentioning my names, etc. every single other day bc you can't let go of a disagreement we had in the past. Quit holding a damn GRUDGE and leave me the fug alone. Grow the hell up. Ive told you this on more than one occasion already. I'm entitled to my own "opinions" whether you like it or not. No one is right and no one is wrong. You dont like it, move along. It's a fuggn talking forum dude! A fuggn "forum", so dont make it a life for u. I come on here to read updates of the team and post my opinions just like everyone else. You dont have to mention/attack my name in every one of your post bc your still BITTER about the past.

Grow the hell up Red! This is as nice as I can tell you. This place have become a "JOKE" the last couple of years bc we have mods/admins who cant take control of this place, and people who wants to be assholes like you around here.

Talk about "FOOTBALL" and quit insulting others' opinions!!! I dont insult your intelligence, so dont insult mines.


Does it really hit your fragile ego that hard to not get unanimous praise on the internet for your insight? Lighten up and stop trying to make yourself out to be a martyr, and maybe you will have a better experience here Chuck.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:00 PM

I think Kurb is a good poster

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:02 PM

Let me preface this by saying I thought Cam played pretty well. He was efficient and made good reads for the most part. 

 

HOWEVER, I posted following the game that I thought he missed some opportunities to push the ball down the field. I got absolutely flamed.

 

In my opinion, the near INT wasn't a bad read, just a bad throw. The real problem was on 3rd and 12 on our second to last possession. Take a look:

 

 

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As you can see, Smitty is wide open. The sad part is that it looked like Smitty was the first read on this play. Cam just missed him. Granted, the offensive line didn't do a great job on this play. 

 

 

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Here is Smitty putting his hands in the air as Cam scrambles just short of the first down. These are the game-changing plays we have to start making. Not putting the game on Cam, the whole team has to start making plays at the end of games - DeAngelo included.

 



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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:04 PM

The only reason why there's a hundred people backing you up is bc they're afraid of being bant so they sucker up to and agree to every good and retarted post you make.



What is retarted? Is that the past tense of tarting something twice?

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:05 PM

When you can't even spell "retarded" properly in an attempt to insult someone, it's time to stop....

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 07:06 PM

Get lost Red. I'm sick and tired of you supposedly "joking" around, "attacking" me, mentioning my names, etc. every single other day bc you can't let go of a disagreement we had in the past. Quit holding a damn GRUDGE and leave me the fug alone. Grow the hell up. Ive told you this on more than one occasion already. I'm entitled to my own "opinions" whether you like it or not. No one is right and no one is wrong. You dont like it, move along. It's a fuggn talking forum dude! A fuggn "forum", so dont make it a life for u. I come on here to read updates of the team and post my opinions just like everyone else. You dont have to mention/attack my name in every one of your post bc your still BITTER about the past.

Grow the hell up Red! This is as nice as I can tell you. This place have become a "JOKE" the last couple of years bc we have mods/admins who cant take control of this place, and people who wants to be assholes like you around here.

Talk about "FOOTBALL" and quit insulting others' opinions!!! I dont insult your intelligence, so dont insult mines.






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