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Ron Rivera: Norv Turner Clone?



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#25 Promethean Forerunner

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:37 PM

I did a similar thread in the past. The OP is referring to both Rivera and Norv being laid back and well liked by the players, but ineffective leaders/motivators.


While true, they're also incompetent and crappy game planners.

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 09:42 PM

Give that team to a Harbaugh, Parcells, or Cowher, they win the super bowl going away, They had the #1 rated defense and the #1 rated offense in the NFL that season. How do you NOT win the super bowl?


Harbaugh hasn't won jack poo and lost with two teams far superior to any of those SD teams.

The love that lunatic gets around here is absurd.

#27 MHS831

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:27 PM

I see your point...it was just worded poorly in the OP IMHO. My apologies.

 

No problem, bro.  I see your perspective as well.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:29 PM

Looks to me like we need to hire Norv Turner. He's better than Rivera, at least at getting to the playoffs.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:38 PM

Harbaugh hasn't won jack poo and lost with two teams far superior to any of those SD teams.

The love that lunatic gets around here is absurd.

 

 

 

I really try to respect your opinion, but to say that Harbaugh has not won "jack poo" (conference championship) in his first 2 years in the NFL is simply not accurate.  Nor is your supposition that the 2009 Chargers were inferior.  DId you read the part about being the #1 ranked defense and the #1 ranked offense in the NFL in 2009?  Nobody gets better than that.  

 

Finally, I am not loving Harbaugh, I am loving the fire he brought to SF. The aggressive swagger that was not there before he arrived.  The ability to get the most out of the team's most important position and win about 75% of his games.   If you want to criticize him for not winning a Super Bowl during his first 2 years in the league, go for it. 



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:43 PM

The ignorance on this forum is amazing. Norv Turner has never been a DC for any NFL team.

 

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:09 PM

rivera isn't fit to whiff norv's jock strap.

 

 

Everyone forgets that Norv went to the AFC championship game, and also how stacked the AFC was at the top back then.

 

Pats, Baltimore, Indy, Pitt, you had to go through two all time great QB's and 2 all time great D's to get to the Super Bowl.

 

Norv beat the Peyton led Colts twice in the playoffs.

 

Norv should have been gone before last year, but let's not even compare the two coaches.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 02:22 PM

Guys might wanna keep in mind that any successes you cite for Turner from 2007 to 2010 occurred with Ron on his staff. That may affect the strength of your argument.

As to the thread premise, I'd compare Ron to a hybrid of Turner and Singletary.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 02:53 PM

Norv turned it around the last couple years, starting off well then crashing towards the end.  at least thats what my horrible memory is telling me.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:03 PM

Cmon man Norv coached multiple winning teams and almost made a Super Bowl. Once again, MUCH better coach. Ron Rivera is in a class all of his own.  There is no comp

 

Norv was dealt a dream hand and did nothing with it.  Again, he had the #1 Defense and the #1 offense in the NFL at the same time.  How do you not go to the super bowl?  How do you not win it?

 

Norv sucked.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:04 PM

Norv has forever been one of those 'great coordinator / lousy head coach' types. Singletary was too.

Sadly, I suspect that may be Rivera as well :(

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 03:04 PM

Norv turned it around the last couple years, starting off well then crashing towards the end.  at least thats what my horrible memory is telling me.

 

I remember he was expected to be fired and was not for 2 years.  Everyone thiought he had pictures of someone.