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#196 IamSoClutch

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:37 PM

Have you been noticing Tolbert "brush himself off" after every nice run lately?

 

No?  Why not?  You seem to have goo-goo eyes for Cam.

 

Yes?  If so, what's the difference?

 

for the last time a QB does not equal RB, WR, DL, LB, S, CB

 

a qb is the face of the franchise. he has more things to be focused on then pointing after first down.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:42 PM

i just dont think its necessary. i love Cam and i want him to have fun. but its no point of celebrating a 1st down if the drive doesnt end in a touchdown. he is our franchise quarterback so comparing him to what a receiver does doesnt make sense. like i said celebration for touch idc but a first down just isnt worth it to me

 

I'm not about to read eleven more pages of mostly wordpoo to see of this has been pointed out already, so let me get this straight.  You're saying it would be OK to celebrate a first down if it resulted in a TD drive?  Example: It 's 3rd and twenty from deep in Panther territory and the pocket collapses, but Cam scrambles for 25 yards and a first.  He is now supposed to use his Superman ESP or something to look ahead three to five minutes and foresee a touchdown before he can point downfield in celebration?  Talk about not making any sense.  And it doesn't matter if it's worth it to you.  It matters because it is something Cam enjoys that keeps him pumped up and wanting more.  Most of the crowd where I sit gets a kick out of it, and that's in the wine and cheese section (the cheap corner part though).  They love Tolbert's dancing too.

 

Edit:   PS - Better call the announcer at BoA and tell him to quit trying to get the crowd to participate in celebrating EVERY first down.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:44 PM

Ive been watching Espn all day long. Cam is getting alot of praise for his maturity and his dedication to preparation. However multiple people have brung up his 1st down celebration pose( skip bayless, steven A, Herm edwards, etc). I love Cam to death, thats my quarterback but i do not like the first down pose at all, never have and never will. the pose just rubs me the wrong way and im always like why are you doing that now its just a first. I really want him to stop. wanted to know what the huddle thought about this.

 

P.S  The Superman Celebration its totally deserved for touchdowns

 

Are they tired of Colin kissing his Biceps? Luck and his annoying ass facial expressions and inability to speak clearly during his press conferences? How about RG III's arrogance? This ish with dislike every ish Cam does is getting out of hand. The picking apart of this kid is getting ridiculous. This is not the 1800's.

 

I'm tired of ESPN/NFLN and their puppets picking the pimple off Cam's ass and having a problem with it. I'm sure they won't stop thou.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:45 PM

The best thing about this thread is how the usual suspects couldn't help but to out themselves YET AGAIN.  :lol:

 

"YEAH GUYZ, I'M SOOPER SERIAL THAT CAM IS MY DUDE, LOVE HIM FOREVAH NO-HOMO (AS FAR AS YOU KNOW), BUT IS THAT FIRST DOWN CELEBRATION EMBARRASSING OR WHAT GUYZ???"

 

 :lol:



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:53 PM

I'm not about to read eleven more pages of mostly wordpoo to see of this has been pointed out already, so let me get this straight.  You're saying it would be OK to celebrate a first down if it resulted in a TD drive?  Example: It 's 3rd and twenty from deep in Panther territory and the pocket collapses, but Cam scrambles for 25 yards and a first.  He is now supposed to use his Superman ESP or something to look ahead three to five minutes and foresee a touchdown before he can point downfield in celebration?  Talk about not making any sense.  And it doesn't matter if it's worth it to you.  It matters because it is something Cam enjoys that keeps him pumped up and wanting more.  Most of the crowd where I sit gets a kick out of it, and that's in the wine and cheese section (the cheap corner part though).  They love Tolbert's dancing too.

 

Edit:   PS - Better call the announcer at BoA and tell him to quit trying to get the crowd to participate in celebrating EVERY first down.

 

what im saying is after 1st down just go back to the huddle, after touchdowns do whatever you want. now im not saying never ever do a 1st down celebration. your example of 3rd and 25 and running for a 1st down is more than enough reason to do so. we dont have a 12th man type crowd so i really could care less about what happens in the stands.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:54 PM

what im saying is after 1st down just go back to the huddle

 

 

Wait?

 

You mean to tell me that after 1st downs Cam NEVER GOES BACK TO THE HUDDLE??!?!?

 

Well, that changes EVERYTHING then!

 

THIS IS A GODDAM OUTRAGE!!!



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 05:57 PM

 we dont have a 12th man type crowd so i really could care less about what happens in the stands.

 

Still not making any sense.  You're on a sofa and obviously care about it.  Furthermore, the fact that we arguably don't come close to having a 12th man is all the more reason to care about the BoA crowd.  Just this week the home crowd effect was prominently mentioned.  It means a whole lot to the players, and you SHOULD care about that.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:00 PM

I'm not about to read eleven more pages of mostly wordpoo to see of this has been pointed out already, so let me get this straight.  You're saying it would be OK to celebrate a first down if it resulted in a TD drive?  Example: It 's 3rd and twenty from deep in Panther territory and the pocket collapses, but Cam scrambles for 25 yards and a first.  He is now supposed to use his Superman ESP or something to look ahead three to five minutes and foresee a touchdown before he can point downfield in celebration?  Talk about not making any sense.  And it doesn't matter if it's worth it to you.  It matters because it is something Cam enjoys that keeps him pumped up and wanting more.  Most of the crowd where I sit gets a kick out of it, and that's in the wine and cheese section (the cheap corner part though).  They love Tolbert's dancing too.

 

Edit:   PS - Better call the announcer at BoA and tell him to quit trying to get the crowd to participate in celebrating EVERY first down.

 

Thank you.

 

I swear, the fugging scrutinizing of this kid is getting fugging ridiculous. Slavery is over. The fact that it's so OBVIOUS that the media and some of the dumb ass Panther fans/ That is right, I said DUMB ASS,  are looking for anything to scrutinize Cam over says a lot.  Even this guy on NFLN decided he wanted to get in on the, let me see what I can scrutinize Cam over BS. He claimed he didn't like Cam's sliding. I'm glad the other Host quickly shut him down.  

 

Pure sign of INSECURITY.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:07 PM

Thank you.

 

Even this guy on NFLN decided he wanted to get in on the, let me see what I can scrutinize Cam over BS. He claimed he didn't like Cam's sliding. I'm glad the other Host quickly shut him down.  

 

 

You're welcome.

 

As for the slide, I haven't done any research on it, but my gut goes against the consensus and tells me there's just as much risk of taking out a knee going feet first and getting it slammed or hung in the turf as there is going head first and seeing stars or banging up a shoulder.  If he gets the first, the extra yard shouldn't matter though.  Either way, it seems like a pick your poison proposition.



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:15 PM

a qb is the face of the franchise. he has more things to be focused on then pointing after first down.

 

1) Celebrating a first down isn't exactly going to break his concentration or otherwise prevent him from focusing on the next down. If anything, it will encourage more of the same.

2) The face of this franchise celebrates achievements, encourages others to celebrate their achievements, and does so at the expense of the moral of the teams opponents and their fans. Not only that, but he does it with a gigantic grin on his face, which is probably the part that pisses people off the most.

 



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:54 PM

The fact that this opinionated/pointless thread is 14 pages long is just testament to the boredom of fellow Panthers fans going into an NFL weekend after already winning on Thursday Night.. Hahahaha come on ya'll this is just absurd.. 14 pages about whether Cam should do a 1st down point or not after a check down run.. Come on buddies... We Are Better Than This!!! Lol SMH..



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 06:55 PM

Rivera addressed Cam's sliding in today's presser.

Cam is competitive. He doesn't do poo the easy way. He knows sliding feet first places the ball where he begins the slide, whereas his forward slide actually gains yardage.

It's either exposing his incredibly valuable legs and ending the play, or launching his massive, padded back and shoulders into the defense and extending the play.

They've tried to get him to slide but CAM PREFERS HIS DIVE. DEAL WITH IT

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 07:47 PM

The fact that this opinionated/pointless thread is 14 pages long is just testament to the boredom of fellow Panthers fans going into an NFL weekend after already winning on Thursday Night.. Hahahaha come on ya'll this is just absurd.. 14 pages about whether Cam should do a 1st down point or not after a check down run.. Come on buddies... We Are Better Than This!!! Lol SMH..

 

I started on ESPN. All morning long they made side remarks about disliking it. In fact not 1 person that spoke on it had no problem against it. They all didn't care about the Superman TD, but didn't like the 1st down celebration

 

They shouldn't stop. Not Cam, Steve, Tolbert, Mitchell. It's sort of like a confidence thing



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 07:51 PM

Still not making any sense.  You're on a sofa and obviously care about it.  Furthermore, the fact that we arguably don't come close to having a 12th man is all the more reason to care about the BoA crowd.  Just this week the home crowd effect was prominently mentioned.  It means a whole lot to the players, and you SHOULD care about that.

 

why would i care when the so called fans there cant muster up enough noise or like yall always say get there on time. if i had the money i would be at every home game and drive 3 hours every Sunday just to be there bruh



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Posted 25 October 2013 - 07:58 PM

Things i never intended on:

 

This thread being 14 pages lol

 

and people taking make quest for other opnions other than my own as bashing Cam

 

am one of the biggest Cam supporters you will every find since day one. in my eyes he can do no wrong. i just feel the first down celebration isnt necessary. all im saying. i guarantee in 2years or less he wont be doing it anymore. count on it




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