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If you want to know what is going on just watch Gronk. He didn't complain or yell at the ref. He was resigned to losing the game until the flag comes out.

It looks worse in slow motion, but if you look at it in fast motion Gronk cannot make that catch. It would have been an under thrown pick regardless.

It was the right call and Keek did fine

 

Again I say, Thank you.

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Of course I did say the Patriots played dirty in the OP. Also, I was very happy to see CJ come back on the field. I much rather have him healthy again, even more than a win last night. It's awesome we got both.

As far as the media goes, I believe the same fuss would have been made if this happened with Cam and Olsen. I don't care much about the media going crazy. I do believe the last play cheapened the game though. Yet there is no question, Kuechly made illegal contact against Gronk, and had Gronk made any kind of attempt to come back for the ball (or if Brady threw it further in the endzone), Kuechly would have been called for a penalty. The ball wasn't that far from where the contact occured, it wasn't like Brady threw it to the one yard line, it was in the endzone.

I'll be back to respond to some of the other posts.

The reason people may feel it cheapened the game is because the flag was thrown when it never should have been.

If that flag wasn't thrown in the first place, no one would have been outraged or even thought there was a foul on that play.

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Great call by the refs, no penalty there period.

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The reason people may feel it cheapened the game is because the flag was thrown when it never should have been.

If that flag wasn't thrown in the first place, no one would have been outraged or even thought there was a foul on that play.

 

 

So you are saying Gronk didn't get mugged?

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So you are saying Gronk didn't get mugged?

I am saying it wasnt a penalty he was just being face guarded. I am not sure you could even call holding there and it wasn't pass interference.

Gronk never reacted to the throw. It is a weird play where real time gives you a better representation than slow motion. If you watch it in real time you would realize Gronk had no chance to catch the ball.

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Of course I did say the Patriots played dirty in the OP.  Also, I was very happy to see CJ come back on the field.  I much rather have him healthy again, even more than a win last night.  It's awesome we got both.

 

 

 

 

As far as the media goes, I believe the same fuss would have been made if this happened with Cam and Olsen.  I don't care much about the media going crazy.  I do believe the last play cheapened the game though.  Yet there is no question, Kuechly made illegal contact against Gronk, and had Gronk made any kind of attempt to come back for the ball (or if Brady threw it further in the endzone), Kuechly would have been called for a penalty.  The ball wasn't that far from where the contact occured, it wasn't like Brady threw it to the one yard line, it was in the endzone.

 

 

I'll be back to respond to some of the other posts.

 

It doesn't cheapen it no more than the all other calls during that didn't get go the Panthers way during the game.

 

Only a Panthers Fan..SMH

 

FYI, You know how one realizes there is no controversy here? The same folks in the media who are trying to make a controversy out of this, are contradicting themselve. They are all suppose to be in agreement, this is how you know these sports shows are fake, but they are all agruing against each other while trying to sound like they are on the same page. How are you going to say that the call was right but the Refs picking up the flag meant that something happened? That is such BS. 

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Chris Carter on Mike & Mike explained very well why it was NOT PI or holding......  very matter-of-factly.....  vey insightful

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If you want to know what is going on just watch Gronk. He didn't complain or yell at the ref. He was resigned to losing the game until the flag comes out.

It looks worse in slow motion, but if you look at it in fast motion Gronk cannot make that catch. It would have been an under thrown pick regardless.

It was the right call and Keek did fine

 

 

When you see the live action replay, it's much more clear.

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I do think it is fair to say that we would be raging if that happened to us. But we would also be wrong

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So you are saying Gronk didn't get mugged?

 

No Gront wasn't mug. U see how big that dude is? Keek had his hands full, literally and figuratively.

 

Plus, if you  look at the highlight with the filtering of the talking heads, you will see that Keek started guarding Gront as they both were heading out of bounds. The ball came in low and the other player came across and caught it. Even if Keek wasn't in the way, gront would't have caught the ball. It was short and low. You folks are acting like Brady threw the ball to the back of the endzone and Gront tried to catch it but couldn't.

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keek did what was needed to secure a win at the last moment and even if he got away with something, does that mean he's reached a level of respect in the league that he's able to get away with that kind of thing? (cause you know that is the case with many respected vets)

 

things like this fall in team's favor all the time...it's just that it usually isn't us. this year it did. it feels good. i'll take poo like this any day.

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I think Luke fugged up. The refs may have ultimately made the right call, but that doesn't completely take Luke off the hook.

 

If I'm his coach, then yes, I talk to him about it. Kuechly probably already knows he got a bit of a break because, right or wrong, that same call could have easily gone against us.

 

But it in no way cheapens the victory.

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