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In the end it was enough but they tackled quite poorly and allowed plays to get more than they could have after first contact. They could have been much better simply by tackling better and not getting penalties in big situations. 

 

Anyone that tries to say we played good D on monday night doesnt know football. 

 

On top of only getting them off the field on 3rd down ONCE the entire game (one punt), we missed tons of tackles, gap problems, gashed on the run, CBs getting abused, numerous big defensive penalties, etc. 

 

Luckily our offense was able to move the ball well themselves and were able to keep Brady and their O off the field for a large portion of the game. 

 

Normally you will not win trading scores with Brady. ie The other QB and offense will blink first. We can thank Riddley / his fumbleistis and our O for this win. 

 

Your not gonna shut down NE on D but the least you can do is force a few punts during the entire game. 

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finheaven.com is one of the more popular forums for the Dolphins as well

 

We have never beaten the Dolphins in reg season.

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Our defense has had better efforts this year, but you can't take away how well the Pats played either. They really stressed our coverage (like a lot of people thought they would) and killed a few of their own opportunities. Rivera was adamant that he was disappointed with the tackling and the lull in the third quarter with the pass rush, but that just means they will spend the week harping on the details and fine tuning our excellent defense to make sure it maintains its good form. All in all, nothing to be upset about with their effort and a quality win earned against a quality team should be celebrated.

 

As for Miami, there's no chance this team overlooks them. This team has bought in completely to the "next game" philosophy and that reflects very highly of our coaches. We've been in every game this year no matter what, no one is sneaking up on us.

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Some of you people can't be happy with anything.

 

I'm happy with the win. I was in no way saying we have a problem on defense. But Zod telling people they haven't watched any football for mentioning the defensive issues on Monday Night is silly. NE is going to present a threat to any defense but it wasn't elaborate offense that challenged the Panthers. It was a lot of bad tackling on the part of the Panthers.

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Scoreboard.

 

Holding the Pats and Tom Brady to 20 points on MNF is a good defensive effort.

 

You are trying to hard to be pessimistic.

 

Agree, but not according to the standards that this D has set.  Good effort but too many missed tackles.  White needs to come back after a shaky performance too. 

 

Everything considered, 20 points and a W against Brady and the best coaching staff is Ok with me.  The Pats lack a lot of the big names and experience they used to have but are doing an impressive job.  

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Then you haven't watched much football this year.

 

The Patriots had just put up 55 in Pittsburgh against the #4 defense in the league.

 

the thing that Rivera was not happy with was tackling.  He felt (rightfully so) that we allowed way to many yards after contact.  Guys have to wrap guys up.

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Zod telling people they haven't watched any football for mentioning the defensive issues on Monday Night is silly

 

sure

 

Then again it was somewhat in reply to defensive expectations vs Miami. I do agree with the idea that type of transitive logic is dumb in today's NFL. Look at the other supposed elite D in the league - the chiefs, who looked like junk vs the Broncos last week. Elite defenses rarely if ever shutdown the elite offenses with the way the rules are anymore. 

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I don't know how it is even a question about our defense having a bad night.  It was just all-around sloppy defense on our part... missed tackling, etc. you name it.  The Pats methodically drove down the field on just about every possession.

 

Patriots played the clock all game and cut our defense up all game.  I'm guessing Bill's gameplan was to get us behind with the long scoring drives and force Newton to throw franticly and make mistakes in an attempt to catch up and get in a shootout with Brady... yeah... just too bad that didn't work out for them.

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I'm happy with the win. I was in no way saying we have a problem on defense. But Zod telling people they haven't watched any football for mentioning the defensive issues on Monday Night is silly. NE is going to present a threat to any defense but it wasn't elaborate offense that challenged the Panthers. It was a lot of bad tackling on the part of the Panthers.

The Pats had two weeks to scheme us, they are probably the best team in the AFC, and they have the best QB in the AFC. Games like this come down to small things and we did just enough. Our defense had one hell of a game and if we had one more experienced CB it would have been even farther apart. We are not the steel curtain but we are very good.

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yep, 20 pts is not a fair indicator of how much Pats O torched us.

 

Yes, the score of the game is no indicator.

 

 

 

Good lord.

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The only reason Brady was held to 20 points was due to the Carolina O playing well keeping the NE O on the sideline. 

 

The D had nothing to do with keeping NE under 21 points. Only got off the field once on 3rd down the entire game. They punted ONCE all game and pretty much drove the entire field on every possession. 

 

Ron and the D would prob be the first to say they did not have a good showing. 

 

Hell, we let them drive the length of the field with 50 seconds remaining in the game knowing they had to pass the ball. 

 

Not a good night for our D. 

Ron said his D didn't play well from the 3rd quarter to the middle of the 4th.

 

They didn't.  Carolina especially against the run....should of had lots of stops for no gain or little.  They missed a lot of tackles and played the run poorly.

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