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MMQB Cam should be more like Brees

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#16 Cary Kollins

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:09 PM

Stopped reading at "entertainer and icon"




yeah whaddayaknow...ole' Peter King's shiny new website only took a few months to run that fugged up out-of-context quote again.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:10 PM

Gotta Love The Media, and their various takes. 


When Andrew Luck's Teammates Deliver, "they finally stepped up and helped him". It's never Luck (or other QB's) issue. They're isolated from it.


However, when Cam's teammates finally step up, "Cam is now maturing and realizing he doesn't have to do everything by himself".  Huh? Notice the difference/viewpoints? They put it on Cam; alluding to the fact, that HE WAS HOLDING HIS TEAMMATES BACK, and not vice versa. 


You'll know what I mean, if you saw First Take This morning, and seeing the "Cam's maturing", and realizing he doesn't have to do it all by himself card" card being repeatedly played. None of these guys really watch or research/understand the Panthers, based off their discussions. SMH


It's always something. 


#18 Cary Kollins

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:13 PM

Yeah, I responded in the comments. It's readily apparent he didn't pay much attention to the schematic demands of the Carolina offense or the circumstances surrounding some of our games.


damn you dropped the mic on him

#19 toldozer


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:13 PM

fug drew brees

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#20 KSpan



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:14 PM

Cam didn't throw an interception against Seattle. That pass he used as an example of a bad throw hit Olsen in the chest, he just dropped it. It was actually a mind-boggling throw.


I honestly only skimmed that part here at work due to the giant pics, but I remember the throw now.  Edited the BS out of my post. 

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:33 PM

Yeah, I responded in the comments. It's readily apparent he didn't pay much attention to the schematic demands of the Carolina offense or the circumstances surrounding some of our games.


Lol I just read that comment.  You tore into that ass, good job man.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 01:17 PM

Hey, we've got the national media writing artilces about why our 3rd year QB is almost as good as a vet and hall of fame QB. 


Most of his stuff is cherry picked and even the points me made that were true he tried to make it seem like it was something that the most 3rd year QB's ahve gotton past. 

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 01:45 PM

I could go through and cherry pick still frames and stats, and write this same article about any QB in the league including Brees, Brady, or Peyton.

This is an example of a guy having an idea for his article and then fishing for evidence and examples to bolster his predetermined assumptions.

I could also just as easily cherry pick still frames and stats to show Cam is one of the best passers in the league.

This is serious nonsense and should be taken very lightly IMO

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:09 PM

In Brees' first three years, he was 10-17 as a starter, with 30 TDs and 31 INTs.  He had completed 59.4% of his passes for 5613 yards and 6.17 YPA, and rushed for 232 yards.


Cam's in his third year, he's 22-22, with 87 TDs and 40 INTs.  He's completed 59% of his passes for 10,536 yards and 7.7 YPA, and he's rushed for 1894 yards.


Who needs to emulate who again?

#25 mwright350


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:20 PM

That guy needs to basically fug off.


Brees is good, noone in their right mind would day he's not, but to say that Cam should emulate him is to say that there is only one kind of QB who can be successful in the NFL.  He's launching everyone back into an old debate.  Might as well change the title of that article to "can a mobile QB be successful in the NFL or do they all have to be 100% pocket passers?".  Funny also how none of these articles ever mention the sheer number of records Cam has set...not all having to do with his legs.  Nor do they like to mention how much better he is as a passer now than he was last year and the clear growth there.  Cam has a unique combination of speed, size, and natural ability.  He's now shown the growth that everyone said he had to show.  He'll continue to do that.  And he'll be more and more scary to opposing DCs every year because of it.


Maybe someone over there is just mad that Panthers players don't want to respond to questions about Cam's maturity / leadership anymore.

#26 Darth Biscuit

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:22 PM

Peter King can suck my hairy nuts.


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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:34 PM

people still believe that Cam is only a running qb? M(

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:04 PM

Didn't know 62% was such a bad thing. Heck we can argue being that Brees is so short he should be a dual threat QB like Russell Wilson. See, I can play that game too.

#29 Crayfish McCorduroy

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:08 PM

Not sure I see the big deal.  He's basically saying Cam needs to be more consistent (like Brees) in 3 key areas.  Does anyone really disagree with that?  Then he picks a play to illustrate his point.  He mentions that Cam shouldn't abandon his "sandlot skills" but needs to improve in the pocket.  That sounds great to me.  The final paragraph sums it all up pretty well.


I've been interested in his work (on MMQB and NYT) for a while because he sometimes works from my building, although I haven't seen him around lately.  Keep meaning to talk to him when he's around.  I think he's a really strong, analytical writer, and while I love reading fluff pieces on muh QB, I don't see the point in getting bent out of shape when someone takes the time to detail changes that could make Cam, and the team even better.


That said, fug Drew Brees and the Saints.

#30 dos poptarts

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:28 PM

LIke Teeray said....it's a lazy article using cherry picked stats to fit the story's narrative.....


Tom Brady threw a pass right to Capt Munnerlyn and would have ended the game right there on MNF...I could write an article that says Tom Brady is no longer clutch and needs to work on his accuracy and decision making in the 4th QTR. Has TB lost the magic? Tom can't make avg players into winners anymore. He needs Gronk and Welker-Lite to have an average offense.


And of course...where are the articles proclaiming that Aaron Rodgers still needs to be clutch and actually have some 4th QTR comebacks?


Cam is a lightning rod on a national sports "news" and this is the best they've got? They want to drive hits/viewers/conversation about his article...but when it comes down to it there's nothing in this article that's insightful.



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