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MMQB Cam should be more like Brees


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#25 mwright350

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:20 PM

That guy needs to basically fug off.

 

Brees is good, noone in their right mind would day he's not, but to say that Cam should emulate him is to say that there is only one kind of QB who can be successful in the NFL.  He's launching everyone back into an old debate.  Might as well change the title of that article to "can a mobile QB be successful in the NFL or do they all have to be 100% pocket passers?".  Funny also how none of these articles ever mention the sheer number of records Cam has set...not all having to do with his legs.  Nor do they like to mention how much better he is as a passer now than he was last year and the clear growth there.  Cam has a unique combination of speed, size, and natural ability.  He's now shown the growth that everyone said he had to show.  He'll continue to do that.  And he'll be more and more scary to opposing DCs every year because of it.

 

Maybe someone over there is just mad that Panthers players don't want to respond to questions about Cam's maturity / leadership anymore.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:22 PM

Peter King can suck my hairy nuts.

 



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 02:34 PM

people still believe that Cam is only a running qb? M(



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:04 PM

Didn't know 62% was such a bad thing. Heck we can argue being that Brees is so short he should be a dual threat QB like Russell Wilson. See, I can play that game too.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:08 PM

Not sure I see the big deal.  He's basically saying Cam needs to be more consistent (like Brees) in 3 key areas.  Does anyone really disagree with that?  Then he picks a play to illustrate his point.  He mentions that Cam shouldn't abandon his "sandlot skills" but needs to improve in the pocket.  That sounds great to me.  The final paragraph sums it all up pretty well.

 

I've been interested in his work (on MMQB and NYT) for a while because he sometimes works from my building, although I haven't seen him around lately.  Keep meaning to talk to him when he's around.  I think he's a really strong, analytical writer, and while I love reading fluff pieces on muh QB, I don't see the point in getting bent out of shape when someone takes the time to detail changes that could make Cam, and the team even better.

 

That said, fug Drew Brees and the Saints.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:28 PM

LIke Teeray said....it's a lazy article using cherry picked stats to fit the story's narrative.....

 

Tom Brady threw a pass right to Capt Munnerlyn and would have ended the game right there on MNF...I could write an article that says Tom Brady is no longer clutch and needs to work on his accuracy and decision making in the 4th QTR. Has TB lost the magic? Tom can't make avg players into winners anymore. He needs Gronk and Welker-Lite to have an average offense.

 

And of course...where are the articles proclaiming that Aaron Rodgers still needs to be clutch and actually have some 4th QTR comebacks?

 

Cam is a lightning rod on a national sports "news" and this is the best they've got? They want to drive hits/viewers/conversation about his article...but when it comes down to it there's nothing in this article that's insightful.

 

 



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 03:29 PM

Not sure I see the big deal.  He's basically saying Cam needs to be more consistent (like Brees) in 3 key areas.  Does anyone really disagree with that?  Then he picks a play to illustrate his point.  He mentions that Cam shouldn't abandon his "sandlot skills" but needs to improve in the pocket.  That sounds great to me.  The final paragraph sums it all up pretty well.

 

I've been interested in his work (on MMQB and NYT) for a while because he sometimes works from my building, although I haven't seen him around lately.  Keep meaning to talk to him when he's around.  I think he's a really strong, analytical writer, and while I love reading fluff pieces on muh QB, I don't see the point in getting bent out of shape when someone takes the time to detail changes that could make Cam, and the team even better.

 

That said, fug Drew Brees and the Saints.

 

The big deal is that he didn't do his homework. Ask him when you see him how many times the Panthers run four verticals, which players they have capable of getting behind a defense in that formation, and how that affects Cam's YPA.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 04:56 PM

Just so y'all know who is writing this:

 

Andy Benoit @Andy_Benoit 6 nov

Top QB's w/ less than 3 yrs: 1 Luck, 2 Wilson, 3 Kaepernick, 4. Dalton, 5. Newton 6. RG3, 7. Tannehill 8. Smith 9. Glennon 10 Locker

 

Andy Benoit @Andy_Benoit 6 nov

Cam clearly a more talented player than Dalton. But not a better player.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 05:35 PM

I'm not one to nitpick, but when talking about footwork, it seems as if every game Drew Brees is having to throw a jump pass.  He literally leaves his feet in order to heave the ball over the outstretched arms of the line, given his short stature.

 

I'm not selling Brees short on his abilities as a passer, not at all, but I don't think you can put Cam and Brees in the same conversation about how they play from within the pocket.  The physical differences are too great.

 

Yep, that's the way Brees makes up for his lack of height. He literally can not see over most NFL players, definitely not over lineman. Which is why it will be so darn important that the defense plays disciplined football and stays in their gaps and gets off blocks. Before the MNF they showed clips of Wilson & Brees with their throwing motions. Wilson gets on his tip toes. Brees jumps/hops.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 06:50 PM

First and second seasons: "Carolina won't get anywhere! They don't have a defense and they can't run the ball, the two ingredients for a championship team! Who cares if you can throw for 5000 yards, if you can't stop the run and control the clock!"

 

This season: "Carolina won't get anywhere! They ONLY have a good defense and rely too much on controlling the clock! They need to pass more! That's the ingredient for a championship team!"



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 07:54 PM

I still think this is a small vs. large market issue. These "analysts" know that by attacking the Panthers they can please large market fans from NO, ATL, and even NE, now that we've embarassed them. It's all about shock and sales.

The only way we can win this battle is by winning ALOT for a significant period of time.

I don't think we'll have trouble with that.

The guys that are attacking us now will be fighting each other to carry Cam's jock in two years.

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Posted 05 December 2013 - 08:41 PM

Yeah Brees took a long time to become what he is. I mean hell he got replaced and found success in his second stop.