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#46 Frash Brastard

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:11 AM

I dont wanna hear about all the pussified excuses about our OL or WR.

Bad OL get the ball out quick.

WR issues coaches need to do a better job coaching them up and putting in positions to succeed.


Football talking points ayyyyyy

#47 Chimera

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:11 AM

I didn't say he had to do it every time. But did anyone here really think we we're going to play this game our way the whole time and keep it a 17-24 game?

Get real. I don't care that we don't have a premier #1 anymore. LaFell is a WR in the NFL, send his ass down field. We knew our o-line couldn't run block for poo and we still decided to waste 1st down on running plays.

We have to be better prepared to play catch up. We are not always going to lead into the 2nd half and eat the clock each drive. I think Cam was scared to throw pics tonight. He was way off on a couple throws. I know we need another weapon on offense. Everyone does, but it's like we didn't even try.


Running was fine today (about 4.5 ypc from our backs, Cam put it closer to 6 ypc overall)

But did we use that to our advantage? I don't remember any play action passes (granted O Line probably prevented that)

Did we spread the field and hit them with a draw?

Did we sell the run at all to open up passing lanes?

Nope. we ran, threw deep, threw short, punted

#48 Marguide

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:26 AM

 

I dont wanna hear about all the pussified excuses about our OL or WR. 
 
Bad OL get the ball out quick. 
 
WR issues coaches need to do a better job coaching them up and putting in positions to succeed. 


Your argument comes down to "I want what I want and I want it right now".

Talent does matter. While coaching is a huge factor in on field performance, there is a reason why 1st round picks outperform 7th round picks, and why players in the prime of their career outperform those well into their 30's. In my opinion, we've done a good job on O given the talent we have. No, we're not explosive. We have some decent players at the skill positions, but not great ones (Cam excluded). Until that's fixed, we aren't going to turn into an elite offense, no matter who draws up the gameplan.

#49 KendrickPanther

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:32 AM

I feel like you guys still haven't acknowledged Cam dropped back 39 times and threw deep several times. At some point you have to throw the ball close enough for your receiver to catch it.



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 03:43 AM

Only thing I wonder is..................  wtf happened to Cam's ability to throw a 50+ yard bomb and land it on a dime?   Is the new coaching screwing him up?   I love the dinking and dunking,  that is a must in every stable offense..........but,  it just seems like our main man is out of sync with the WRs  or having a disfunctional relationship with his old friend the deep ball.

 

We didn't have that great of an Oline in '11. or '12.    Cam had to run for his life a lot back then also.        This year though...Even with time,  Cam is overshooting,  undershooting,  or just downright missing a lot of the deep routes.                I'm not dogging him because we saw in '11 and '12,  he can make every single one of those throws and he can be one of the best in the league at doing so... I'm just curious what you guys think about it.    Is it a confidence thing?   Rivera and Shula trying to turn Cam into Alex Smith?



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 08:35 AM

Our running game (including the playcalling) needs a shot of adrenaline.  It seems that most plays take too long to develop and require every player to sustain their block or it gets blown up.  We don't use misdirection enough.  When was the last time we ran a reverse to Ginn or Smitty?  If we can get the D on their heels vs their toes, everything will open up. 



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Posted 09 December 2013 - 08:48 AM

maybe its just me but i am still encouraged. shore up the D and give Cam some protection and quality weapons and we have a complete ELITE team. Gettleman is no fool. he'll get these problems taken care of. but with a mediocre offense and a leaky (albeit physical) defense, we are still 9-4. im grateful for that after the past four seasons. perhaps we can be a Cinderella story this year and make it to the SB. i still think we can make it there and win against ANY team. but it will be tough and it IS a long shot. our better years are still ahead of us and THAT is awesome to me. KeepPounding...



#53 I Mean He Was Found Guilty

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 08:50 AM

i'd be more worried about this if marty hurney was still running things



#54 Snake

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 08:59 AM

Look what Brees did to us. Look how he did it. Yep his Oline held and his WRs made plays. We just don't have the talent on our line or in our WRs to open up a passing game. Everyone on the huddle wishes we did but we don't.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:01 AM

I feel like you guys still haven't acknowledged Cam dropped back 39 times and threw deep several times. At some point you have to throw the ball close enough for your receiver to catch it.


At some point your line has to give you time to do that.

#56 Dash Global

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:03 AM

Some of you ppl are severely under estimating the effect play calling can have on a team / unit. 

 

Great coaches and QBs can make scrubs look good. 



#57 AceBoogie

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:13 AM

You need OL and WR talent to be what OP wants.....

We don't have that


There it is now we're getting to the real problem.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:14 AM

Some of you ppl are severely under estimating the effect play calling can have on a team / unit.

Great coaches and QBs can make scrubs look good.


Idc how good of a qb you are a scrub is a scrub at wr ask Tom Brady.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:15 AM

i'd be more worried about this if marty hurney was still running things


Yea I'm sure Gman is just going to double up on cbs

#60 xclr82xtc

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 09:18 AM

we dont need to change our philosophy... we need an o line that can handle business.




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