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Cam and Luck forced to carry flawed offenses

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seen this earlier, cant say i dont agree.this team needs weapons.

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Yup, and until we get weapons we will just be happy to make the playoffs every year...

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lol but but but Shula is worthy of head coaching discussion!

Our offense, quite honestly, has been really terrible for the most part this season... Sure, you can find stats that make it look flashy, but we haven't done well at all against decent defenses...

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It shouldn't be surprising our offense is worse this year... Steve Smith isn't a deep threat anymore which leaves us with three possession guys (Smith, Olsen, LaFell) and Ted Ginn as our deep guy, and he tends to drop anything past 30 yards.

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Not much of that I'd argue with.

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seen this earlier, cant say i dont agree.this team needs weapons.

 

So...many...negatives...

 

So you do agree?  or Do you not agree that you can't disagree with the don't not?

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But.... I thought Luck already has the 2015-2020 MVP awards locked down?

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I'm glad someone in sports jounalism finally mentioned that it's all about TEAMs and not just the QB stats/wins/losses.....I do agree that every QB needs a true #1 weapon.

 

I thought the Colts would regress and be a 9 win team this year (and it 'could' still happen) If the AFCSouth had any competitive teams, they might not have even got 8.

 

Interesting that he left off deep discussion of RGIII and Kap who, in my opinion, limit their offenses.

 

 

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if cam was an immobile pocket passer we'd be 5-8

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if cam was an immobile pocket passer we'd be 5-8

 

I honestly couldn't see us getting to 5 wins without Cam taking snaps. An immobile QB would probably have been injured by now.

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lol but but but Shula is worthy of head coaching discussion!
 

 

I'm not going to say that he is worthy of a head coaching job (hint: he's not) but the Browns hired fucking Chud. There's a sucker born every minute.

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The Panthers have needed new weapons on offense since 2009. It is even worse now because Smith isn't playing at the level AJ Green and Calvin Johnson are nowadays. I would love to see him take over in Detroit or Chicago. It would be a joke.

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People always wants to push these young QBs into the Brees and Brady categories when they are not ready. They forget that Brees and Brady needed much time to fully develop before they became who they are now as players.

It creates unrealistic expectations that most young QBs will never live up to early in their careers. That is why smart people always preach patience, something sorely missing in this instant gratification society these days.
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People always wants to push these young QBs into the Brees and Brady categories when they are not ready. They forget that Brees and Brady needed much time to fully develop before they became who they are now as players.

It creates unrealistic expectations that most young QBs will never live up to early in their careers. That is why smart people always preach patience, something sorely missing in this instant gratification society these days.


Brady and Brees struggled, and Peyton threw 25 picks his first year in the league. I've never understood why people are so quick to bury people after such a small sample size. Guess its just the instant society we live in.
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If the MVP award was still given to the league's most valuable player, there isn't a single player in the league who would challenge Cam for it. He literally is the offense.


This team would be competing with Atlanta for placement in the division without him.
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Its true our offense has fewer big plays this year.  Of course, its also true that we have slightly fewer turnovers, in particular fumbles lost.  Last year, we killed ourselves in a few games by making turnovers at critical moments.   This year, we have limited that issue.  Although we were extremely lucky in that regard in the SF game.  It still amazes me that two backs that rarely fumble did it on the last series and we recovered both.   

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if cam was an immobile pocket passer we'd be 5-8

 

Unless he was Dan Marino with the quickest throw/release in the game.  :)

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Brady and Brees struggled, and Peyton threw 25 picks his first year in the league. I've never understood why people are so quick to bury people after such a small sample size. Guess its just the instant society we live in.


Brady didn't struggle in his rookie season.

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Yup, and until we get weapons we will just be happy to make the playoffs every year...

 

I'm inclined to think once we have a superior Oline the weapons we have now and draft for in the future will suffice....
 

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Brady didn't struggle in his rookie season.


He may not have struggled but he wasn't a big time QB and playmaker he became. He was for the most part a game manager his first few years as a starter.

In the regular season in his first two Super Bowl wins he had 18 and 23 TDs. In his first Super Bowl playoff run I don't think he threw for more than 180 yards in any playoff game. It wasn't until his 5th season that he started having routine 30+ TD seasons.

Ironically, he has never won a Super Bowl in a season he has thrown more than 28 TD passes.
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He may not have struggled but he wasn't a big time QB and playmaker he became. He was for the most part a game manager his first few years as a starter.

In the regular season in his first two Super Bowl wins he had 18 and 23 TDs. In his first Super Bowl playoff run I don't think he threw for more than 180 yards in any playoff game. It wasn't until his 5th season that he started having routine 30+ TD seasons.

Ironically, he has never won a Super Bowl in a season he has thrown more than 28 TD passes.


You're missing it :)

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ˆf the offense gets REALLY  bad, we can always call Jimmy Clausen.... 

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People always wants to push these young QBs into the Brees and Brady categories when they are not ready. They forget that Brees and Brady needed much time to fully develop before they became who they are now as players.

It creates unrealistic expectations that most young QBs will never live up to early in their careers. That is why smart people always preach patience, something sorely missing in this instant gratification society these days.

 

While I 100% agree with you, the offense we are running struggles mightily against most decent defenses if Cam/Smitty isn't making some amazing play to keep a drive alive... =\

 

edit: though I don't know if I'd place the blame on Shula all/most of the time anymore.  Critical drops have *killed* us in the two major losses to good teams we've had...

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