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Will these last three games make Newton a bunch of money?


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#41 Happy Panther

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:34 PM

we have all the leverage for at least two more years. Even three.

The team has an option to add another year to his current contract, without any negotiating.

That gives us another two full years without using the franchise tag, which is always an option.

We have PLENTY of time.
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compared to paying him even more money when it's not necessary?

Whatever you say...

Lol

 

Lol

 

Nah - good "rookie contract" QBs get locked up quickly. Always have and always will and we would be a dumb team to be the first to play the franchise game with a QB. It doesn't happen. (Brees doesn't count)

 

This isn't Madden. We will be falling over ourselves to get Cam a new contract



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:37 PM

When is his contract up??

After next year



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:38 PM

A lot depends on how far we go in the playoffs

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 06:43 PM

Lol

Nah - good "rookie contract" QBs get locked up quickly. Always have and always will and we would be a dumb team to be the first to play the franchise game with a QB. It doesn't happen. (Brees doesn't count)

This isn't Madden. We will be falling over ourselves to get Cam a new contract


It's pretty much us and the Bengals in this new CBA. It'll be interesting from a QB perspective to see how much Dalton demands and if he'll get his extension this offseason. Mind all of you, I'm not comparing Cam to Dalton in terms of QB skill, but in terms of rookie contract. I know Red Rocket was a 2nd rd pick too, which makes the QB rookie contract comparison even more silly...(but I'm not going to consider Gabbert, Locker or what's his face in Minny). What the Bengals do with AJ, and the cards do with PP will be intriguing as well.

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 07:08 PM

This is the reason why Cam will never get the money he deserves. Way to much false media framing of how he's actually performing and way to many blind prejudices and bais thinking for any real level of objective thinking to seep into the picture as far as Cam is concern.

 

Also, when you say Cam is "inconsistent" are you comparing him as a player or the team as a whole? When Cam has no consistent WRs or RBs to give the ball to week in and on, then inconsistency is expected. I think some of you seriously believe that Cam is responsible for making all the other positions on the team shine; instead of like it is with the QBs like Brees, Peyton, Luck, and Tom, where the players around them are suppose to play damn well to help them shine.
 

 

Cam needs weapons for sure. How many times ave I harped about this.  As for "consistency", anyone who is half-way objective (which I believe that I am, especially considering that most of my family considers me a blind Cam Homer), don't have to look too hard to see the overthrows that Cam has. Hell, he missed Olson badly last game. Brady, Brees, Manning, and Flacco would have put that one right on the money. And, don't tell me that it's not fair to compare him to the top paid guys, because that's what we're talking about: money. Cam's game has not risen to that level. Hell, Flacco's game hasn't risen to the level of his insane contract.  Anyway, getting back to Cam, the reason that he misses so many open receivers can be almost solely attributed to inconsistent mechanics (originating from bad footwork). Now of course he gets hyped, or has to run for his life on occasion, which tends to lead to some errant throws, but anyone that has been watching Cam and being honest knows that he gets a little flighty with his mechanics unnecessarily at times. While Newton needs to continue to work on his mechanics, I am largely happy with his improvement in making reads and overall decision making. Man, has he gotten exponentially better at protecting the ball and getting it to the obviously open guy. Where Cam also just naturally excels is running the ball which has to be taken into account during contract time. 

 

Lastly, there is something to be said about the QB making everyone else better. It's not like Brady, Brees or Flacco have had all-star talent around them during their entire careers, but yet and still they have been in the post-season mix more times than not. That being said, we need an upgrade in talent at some offensive skill positions to help Cam erase any doubts that he should get paid like one of the top QBs in the league. Unfortunately, I just don't see it at this point. We can't bankrupt the team's future under any circumstances, or even get close to that point if you have a QB that can't win games by himself (which no one can).  $20 mil a year is just pushing the envelope If you are serious about keeping quality players to surround your franchise QB.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:01 PM

A lot depends on how far we go in the playoffs

 

Not really.   Given that we've given Cam nothing to really work with on offense.     Oline is slacking,   WRs are lacking,  and the running game ,  without Cam actually running the ball,  is not something you can look at with pride. 

 

 

Basically saying "Okay,  Cam,  we're hoping that you don't call our bluff,  but,  if you can't get this rag tag offense moving,  and go deep into the playoffs,  we're not going to pay you."  Maybe we'll go after Alex Smith afterward,   He's just a "winner" lately. 



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:09 PM

After next year

 

There is also the 5th year option that they can add this upcoming off season that would pay Cam around 15 million for the 2015 season. 



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:59 PM

Not really.   Given that we've given Cam nothing to really work with on offense.     Oline is slacking,   WRs are lacking,  and the running game ,  without Cam actually running the ball,  is not something you can look at with pride. 

 

 

Basically saying "Okay,  Cam,  we're hoping that you don't call our bluff,  but,  if you can't get this rag tag offense moving,  and go deep into the playoffs,  we're not going to pay you."  Maybe we'll go after Alex Smith afterward,   He's just a "winner" lately. 

The question is why have we done so little on that side of the ball. Cam is the only offensive draft pick since he was drafted that plays on sunday. Think about that.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:11 PM

two P's are at play here.

Potential.

Past.

 

Potential for what CAN be and the past for the last few qb's and their contracts.

 

you lock in Cam for good money according to team cap for the Potential of what you can get.



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:14 PM

The question is why have we done so little on that side of the ball. Cam is the only offensive draft pick since he was drafted that plays on sunday. Think about that.

 

Because our front office is a little stupid. 
 




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