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#16 The_Mango55

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 09:56 AM

Some serious talks will be had with Cam for sure....

 

GMan:  So you remember how bad it felt those first two years when we lost more than we won

 

Cam:  I do..I do...some of the hardest years of my life as a player

 

GMan:  We understand you did a lot this year with a few more weapons but nothing great other then smitty and olsen to throw to at this point. 

 

Cam:  True, but my Oline is makeshift at best with a few solid pieces.  Hell we have a DE playing on the line this year and starting.

 

GMan:  I understand.  So lets give you a good contract that allow us to better Oline, a WR on the free market or draft, and will give us a little wiggle room to resign Hardy.  That Def is pretty elite and man Im sure you feel better when we are in the lead and they have our backs.  (instead of saying man thank god that Def saved our asses half the year)

 

Cam:  True.  I had a nice long talk with MJ and to create a Dynasty you have to make changes.  I want to paid, I know im not elite yet at throwing but man i can do things no one else can.  Remember I got you a ring this year too.

 

GMan:  True.  Ok 16 million 6 years 40 million guaranteed.

 

Cam:  ok here, lets do 15 million 6 years 50 million guaranteed.

 

GMan:  ok done.  as he keep staring that new superbowl ring.

 

 

KEEP POUNDING!

 

I don't think Cam is his own agent.



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 09:56 AM

Some serious talks will be had with Cam for sure....

 

GMan:  So you remember how bad it felt those first two years when we lost more than we won

 

Cam:  I do..I do...some of the hardest years of my life as a player

 

GMan:  We understand you did a lot this year with a few more weapons but nothing great other then smitty and olsen to throw to at this point. 

 

Cam:  True, but my Oline is makeshift at best with a few solid pieces.  Hell we have a DE playing on the line this year and starting.

 

GMan:  I understand.  So lets give you a good contract that allow us to better Oline, a WR on the free market or draft, and will give us a little wiggle room to resign Hardy.  That Def is pretty elite and man Im sure you feel better when we are in the lead and they have our backs.  (instead of saying man thank god that Def saved our asses half the year)

 

Cam:  True.  I had a nice long talk with MJ and to create a Dynasty you have to make changes.  I want to paid, I know im not elite yet at throwing but man i can do things no one else can.  Remember I got you a ring this year too.

 

GMan:  True.  Ok 16 million 6 years 40 million guaranteed.

 

Cam:  ok here, lets do 15 million 6 years 50 million guaranteed.

 

GMan:  ok done.  as he keep staring that new superbowl ring.

 

 

KEEP POUNDING!

 

No!

 

He would  still get $18-$20 mil a year (if you're talking a multi  year contract). But he would get more money upfront, to off set the salary Cap. 

 

No way Cam takes a multi year $16 mil a year contract, after "only" making $4-6 mil a yr on his Rookie contract. 

 

Nonetheless, I'm sure they'll find a way to work it out to help everybody. 



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 09:58 AM

i wasn't joking when i said this earlier last year.

 

I think Cam is going to surprise people and take less because he wants to win so bad. 

 

That's why players have agents. To protect them from themselves (for various reasons); though they're ultimately the boss. Lol



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:01 AM

Gotta rememeber

 

P.  Manning 5 year 96 million  (ok big risk, big reward)

 

Brees  5 year 100 million  (suprebowl, playoffs, great passer and proven leader)

 

Brady  5 year 70.6  (wants to win, takes less.  wife is super rich and he makes a lot off endorsements like cam)

 

Flacco  6 120 million (ridiculous)

 

Eli Manning  7 106.9 million  (two superbowls)

 

Stafford  5 76.5 million  (good passer with elite WR.)

 

Rodgers  7 130 (look what happens when hes gone, luckily their division is horrid)

 

Romo  7 year 119  (crazy.....)

 

 

a lot of these come in around 15-18 million, differnent guaranteed of course.   I like cam being around 15 with higher guaranteed.

 

KEEP POUNDING!



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:04 AM

I don't think Cam is his own agent.

 

CAM is superman....he does everything haha.  KEEP POUNDING!



#21 pantherclaw

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:05 AM

I was wrong, if this ends up being true.

Is good to be wrong on this.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:07 AM

i wasn't joking when i said this earlier last year.

I think Cam is going to surprise people and take less because he wants to win so bad.


I realize that these are two completely different sports especially when it comes to physical risk, but until Jordan's last three years with the Bulls, he wasn't even top 20 in the league in salary, for that very reason.

If both sides want to get this done and don't nickel and dime each other I think we could get this done fairly quickly, and although Cam will get what he deserves I don't think he will try to hold the team hostage like Drew Brees did.

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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:08 AM

Gotta rememeber

 

P.  Manning 5 year 96 million  (ok big risk, big reward)

 

Brees  5 year 100 million  (suprebowl, playoffs, great passer and proven leader)

 

Brady  5 year 70.6  (wants to win, takes less.  wife is super rich and he makes a lot off endorsements like cam)

 

Flacco  6 120 million (ridiculous)

 

Eli Manning  7 106.9 million  (two superbowls)

 

Stafford  5 76.5 million  (good passer with elite WR.)

 

Rodgers  7 130 (look what happens when hes gone, luckily their division is horrid)

 

Romo  7 year 119  (crazy.....)

 

 

a lot of these come in around 15-18 million, differnent guaranteed of course.   I like cam being around 15 with higher guaranteed.

 

KEEP POUNDING!

I hear what you're saying. But those Flacco and Romo contracts (along with inflation/Cam's value to the team), will escalate Cam's contract, unless HE decides to take less from the Panthers (which is probably one of the reasons why he says "I'm not even thinking about contracts". That's stuffs messy. I'm sure he doesn't want to deal with it, until he has to (possibly till next season). Lol 



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:17 AM

Give Cam some equity in Bojangles on the side to keep the cap number low



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:20 AM

Brandt and other experts say contracts for players and coaches alike all boil down to the same thing: market economics. Last summer, Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan signed a five-year extension worth $21 million annually, prompting Newton to tell The Charlotte Observer he was worried only about winning and not about comparing contracts. Good answer, but unlikely to be shared by Bus Cook, Newton’s agent. Cook didn’t respond to my interview requests.
 
Ryan and other top quarterbacks — Aaron Rodgers (Green Bay), Joe Flacco (Baltimore) and Drew Brees (New Orleans) — all make more than $20 million per year. All have far more experience than Newton and, with the exception of Ryan, all of them have won Super Bowls.
 
A former NFL executive who discussed the Rivera and Newton contracts with me on background told me the Panthers will be motivated to sign a contract extension with Newton sooner rather than later. He puts Newton in what he calls a “B-plus” group of quarterbacks: “I like what he’s done, but I want to see consistent accuracy in the pocket, and the way he plays, he could get hurt.” Houston Texans quarterback Matt Schaub might be comparable, the executive said. Schaub signed a four-year contract extension in 2012 worth as much as $62 million, though his and the Texans’ fortunes have dimmed this season. However that sorts out with bonuses and incentives, it still adds up to much more than the $5.5 million Newton averages in his contract. Carolina has an option year on Newton in 2015.
 
The former executive projected Rivera’s next contract to likely pay him in the range of $4.5 million to $5 million per year, almost double his current average of $2.8 million.

 

 

http://www.bizjourna...s.html?page=all

 

Seems right. Cam isn't getting $20M per year unless it is a quirky structure but he will get a very nice contract.

 

$4.5M for 4 years was my prediction for Rivera. The article notes that Fox was making $6M



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:23 AM

Great article. But you imagine how upside down this organization would have been had they listened to the media and went with Gabbert. That was freaking close! Rivera would have been fired last year because they'd probably have won maybe 1 or 2 games as there wouldn't be any end of season winning streak. Isn't it amazing how teams are just one good decision away from being relevant.

 

Hey Rodney Harrison, we will now remember your name when NBC doesn't renew your contract.



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:26 AM

I realize that these are two completely different sports especially when it comes to physical risk, but until Jordan's last three years with the Bulls, he wasn't even top 20 in the league in salary, for that very reason.

If both sides want to get this done and don't nickel and dime each other I think we could get this done fairly quickly, and although Cam will get what he deserves I don't think he will try to hold the team hostage like Drew Brees did.

 

That had less to do with Jordan "wanting to win", and WAY MORE to do with Jordan making $30 mil a year off the field in endorsements, so it didn't matter as much. Lol



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:29 AM

Bus Cook is Cam's agent.  So thankful it isn't Drew Rosenhaus.



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:31 AM

 

 

http://www.bizjourna...s.html?page=all

 

Seems right. Cam isn't getting $20M per year unless it is a quirky structure but he will get a very nice contract.

 

$4.5M for 4 years was my prediction for Rivera. The article notes that Fox was making $6M

 

 

Why do you even listen to this guy, when his analysis of Cam seemed "Media Standard (i.e. those that really don't watch and just parrot memes); while saying Rivera (who has even more to prove) gets $5mil a year after just one good season??

 

The Ryan and Romo contracts (plus inflation, a possible deep Panther run) will make Newton's value higher than that, unless he doesn't want it to be. 

 

Remember, you have to take team dynamics into consideration. The Panthers have had nothing to cheer about in years, and if they lost Newton to Free Agency, the fans would never forgive the front office. You think Cam's replaceable on this team?

 

That  former executive, is just giving a rote take on Cam ('accuracy from the pocket; may get hurt do to playing style'). This is not RG3 or Kaepernick we're talking about here! And he mysteriously sounds like Bill Polian to me (which would disqualify him immediately along with comparing Cam to Matt Schuab). Lol

 

Plus, if you read any article on Cam the past three years, Rivera and the coaches (and I'm sure Gettleman does/will) love him!!! He's given them no reason to think he's not worth keeping, at almost any cost; just by their words. 

 



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Posted 29 December 2013 - 10:34 AM

I think the "evolution" of Cam is sort of ironic.  Yes he's cleaned up some things, and he's become pretty clutch.  However, I think there's been more of an evolution of the perception of Cam Newton by the fans and the media this season.   Maybe it's because he's winning.  What he's showing though,  is that he's always been a good guy.  He's done a good job of hanging in there and coming through the other side.  

 

A lot of people were skeptical that he would even entertain the idea of staying a Panther after is contract has run out.  Myself, included.  I appreciate that Cam has been very transparent and loyal to us, and he really does deserve a big time pay upgrade.




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