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#1 Paintballr

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:45 PM

2013 Carolina Panthers?

Offense lead by Mike Shula....
22.9 Pts a game (18th)
316.8 Yards a game (26th)
190.2 Pass Yards a game (29th)
126.6 Rush Yards a game (11th)
1st in NFC South with a record of 12-4

2008 Carolina Panthers?

Offense lead by Jeff Davidson....
25.9 Pts a game (7th)
349.7 Yards a Game (10th)
197.4 Pass Yards a game (19th)
152.3 Rush Yards a game (3rd)
1st in NFC South with a record of 12-4

Did the 2013 Carolina Panthers over achieve on offense though out the year? I remember this board being ecstatic when Jeff Davidson wasn't our O-Cord any more. It was said he didn't get along with Steve Smith, and ran a very boring, predictable offense.

What do y'all think? Keep with the status quo and keep Mike for another year and hope for a marginal increase in performance? Get him more weapons? I would say that both teams were very similar with talent overall.

2008
QB- Jake
RB- Deangelo, Stewart
FB- Brad Hoover
WR- Smith, Moose, Hackett, Jarrett
TE- King, Rosario
LT- Gross
LG- Wharton
C- Kalil
RG- Hangman/Bridges
RT- Otah

2013
QB- Cam
RB- Deangelo, Stewart
FB- Tolbert
WR- Smith, Lafell, Ginn, Hixon
TE- Olsen, Hartstock
LT- Gross
LG- Wharton
C- Kalil
RG- Scott/Chandler
RT- Bell

#2 Dollar Store Dave

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:51 PM

An offense ran by Bill Lazor?

#3 KillerKat

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:52 PM

This is like asking if you want aids or colon cancer

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:52 PM

From your stars, nothing about our offense is top 10. At least with jd, the backs actually got the yards instead of our qb which would make cam look like superman.

#5 intangiblejohnny

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:55 PM

From your stars, nothing about our offense is top 10. At least with jd, the backs actually got the yards instead of our qb which would make cam look like superman.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:56 PM

The 2008 offense was better because our running game was much better because our o-line was much better.  Steve Smith in his prime and Moose as a 2nd receiver.  

 

For 2013 we've got Cam, Olsen, and Tolbert.  Everything else is the same but older or worse.



#7 Murph

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:56 PM

The OL was so much better & stronger in '08.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:58 PM

Otah was great when healthy. I believe he was the key to the great run game.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 08:59 PM

If the running backs can get at least 800 yards a season a piece then the load would be taken off of cam. He's asked to do too much and I'm surprised that at the end of the games his tongue isn't hanging out from running for 70 yards and passing for 230.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:00 PM

'08 was better. '13 overachieved...sort of.



#11 Paintballr

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:02 PM

This is like asking if you want aids or colon cancer


True but some people say you don't make a change after a 12-4 or a "successful season". The chargers made the call when they fired Marty after a 14-2 Season, Ravens firing Cam Cameron the week before the playoffs, and this board for example couldn't wait for the Jeff Davidson era to be over and done. But say what you will, he produced a more potent offense, although it crapped the bed in the playoffs, then Mike Shula did with Cam Newton.

I'm torn on the issue, because I don't know if it was lack of talent, execution, or play calling that made this offense not as productive as it could have been. Do you replace Mike and go with a new system for a 3rd time in 4 years? Keep Mike and hope he gets better with more talent? What do you do if you get more talent, and get the same result? Fire and promote half way next year and hope for the best?

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:04 PM

I don't know. But I'm sure decisions are being made right now. Who do you bring in as OC? an unknown prospect or go for a OC guru like Turner. All I know is I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:04 PM

If the running backs can get at least 800 yards a season a piece then the load would be taken off of cam. He's asked to do too much and I'm surprised that at the end of the games his tongue isn't hanging out from running for 70 yards and passing for 230.


How much is that play calling though? We can't say that teams didn't stack the box on Jake and make us run the ball at them. He'll we averaged almost the same passing yards a game with Jake.

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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:05 PM

There's no way Turner is coming here for a lame duck coach unless he feel as if he will inherit the hc spot.



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Posted 13 January 2014 - 09:07 PM

That was the funny thing about the 2008 season, the box was stacked with 8 and sometimes 9 players in the box.  We won those games that year because of pure rushing.  I think dwill had 18 rushing touchdowns that year.  You don't have 2 backs with 1100 yards each and other teams don't stack the box.

How much is that play calling though? We can't say that teams didn't stack the box on Jake and make us run the ball at them. He'll we averaged almost the same passing yards a game with Jake.

 




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