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Wild graph showing all 32 offensive ranks by yards and points per game.

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Shula strikes again.

 

1996 (TAM): 28th total offense, 22th rushing offense, 29th passing offense

1997 (TAM): 29th total offense, 11th rushing offense, 30th passing offense

1998 (TAM): 22nd total offense, 4th rushing offense, 27th passing offense

1999 (TAM): 28th total offense, 15th rushing offense, 30th passing offense

2013 (CAR): 26th total offense, 11th rushing offense, 29th passing offense 

 

The best average TOP teams were New Orleans, San Diego, Detroit, Carolina, and then Cincinnati. The most efficient teams on third downs other than Carolina were Denver, San Diego, and New Orleans. These teams weren't too bad defensively either. Let's stop pretending we can't have both a high scoring offense and a tough defense, it's definitely possible.

 

Does anyone have the statistics on drives extended by Riverboat Ron's fourth down calls? We know Cam extended at least 16 drives on third down, and quite of few of them lead to points. If we're looking at the whole picture it would be help to include statistics from these crucial downs.

 

I've been looking at Football Outsides lately, interesting statistics.

 

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we just needed to score more.

 

better field positions thanks to good STs and an incredible defense made the chances of us being tops in the league for yardage quite unlikely.

 

yardage doesn't matter much at all.

 

the only thing that matters is scoring. we just didn't do it enough.

 

we scored on 36.5% of our possessions.

 

now that isn't horrible, but that is 12th in the league.

 

this offense is a clock burning one, which is fine. that being the case, though, the pace is going to be slower than most other games and the number of possessions for each team will be lower, which means lower scoring games. that also is fine.

 

what isn't fine is that we are only scoring on 36.5% of all our possessions and only getting 2.09 pts per drive (10th in the league). we have to do a better job of scoring with each drive. if we are going to be a clock managing team, more efficient team, we need to make sure that we are scoring on more drives.

 

we can find all the stats in the world talking about how efficient we are with turnovers and third downs, but if we aren't scoring on more possessions, that isn't being very efficient.

 

he have to make more of the limited opportunities to score than we have been. with the great field positions we start off with (in which we are 6th in the league), it's pretty inexcusable for us to not be scoring more.

 

i don't see us changing fundamentally our approach to the offense. it is a shula run offense so it's going to be limited. what needs to happen is for us to do more with less opportunities.

 

we have to score more. all other stats and numbers are meaningless until we can do that.

 

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But, what about teams like Chicago, Washington, Detroit, and Minnesota? All had better offenses, but no Playoffs.

 

You guys are a little too carried away with having a high power offense, i.e. Chud.

 

You want an offense that manages the game: Carolina, SF, and Seattle. The three last NFC teams standing.

 

Shula is the right guy for this team atm. We just need more down field weapons.

 

No, you want a high powered / high scoring offense. When your offense only manages the game it allows the other team to stay close. 

 

Every team should strive for a top 10 offense AND defense. The problem is most of the great D minds in football are old school and conservative ie they prefer to have a ball control / run first offense. 

 

Shula should have never in a million years been given the reigns to our O. You need a proven guy or someone with some pedigree. Shula's resume for O was in the red.

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Someone post the teams with highest TOP, offense

Posted just above

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No, you want a high powered / high scoring offense. When your offense only manages the game it allows the other team to stay close. 

 

Every team should strive for a top 10 offense AND defense. The problem is most of the great D minds in football are old school and conservative ie they prefer to have a ball control / run first offense. 

 

Shula should have never in a million years been given the reigns to our O. You need a proven guy or someone with some pedigree. Shula's resume for O was in the red.

 

Sure, you should strive for a top 10 offense. The problem is having an offense that can consistently go out and score in every 5 minutes put your defense in danger. Thats what happened the first two years under Chud.

 

More TDs = Defense on the field = Tired = Opponents scoring a lot of TDs

 

I rather keep the game close knowing that our defense are going to be able to give us a win. Add two receivers to this Shula's offense and you could really see some big changes.

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We are in the quadrant with the worst teams.  I would wager we do not make the playoffs again under Shula.

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We are in the quadrant with the worst teams.  I would wager we do not make the playoffs again under Shula.

 

 

I will stick my neck out and agree.

 

Doubt the D stays this good, but the O should improve some.

 

We were really lucky this season when it came to injuries.  Outside of Amini, did we lose a major piece on the team this year?

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Seems to me its more about red zone td, not total scoring efficiency.

I would bet teams outside the top 10 on d are the ones winning the super bowl the last few years.

So with that trend and Gettleman coming from the giants he will get 2 new wrs next year.

Nicks comes home and one more rock solid wr.

You heard it hear first.

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Broncos were on another planet

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So with that trend and Gettleman coming from the giants he will get 2 new wrs next year.

Nicks comes home and one more rock solid wr.

 

Where will we be getting the cap space from to accomplish this?

 

He's going to be sought after, and he wants to get paid, as he publicly declared himself as one of the best receivers in the NFL in the midst of the Giants losing season. He's going to get in the 40-60 million range, there is virtually no doubt. I don't see Gettleman doing this.

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Yikes... just once I want to have a top rated offense and defense in the same season. 

 

In 2011 we were one of the top ranked offenses and this year we were 2nd in defense. 

 

Would be nice to run on all 8 cylinders just once! 

 

Next year.

 

We are going to get some weapons in the Draft, probably some linemen too.

 

I expect us to be a true contender next year that no one will want to play.

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